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Top American in Vatican: Deny communion for Pelosi

 

Nancy Pelosi(NewsMax) The Vatican’s highest-ranking American said House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and other Catholic politicians who support abortion should be denied communion.

“This is a person who obstinately, after repeated admonitions, persists in a grave sin — cooperating with the crime of procured abortion — and still professes to be a devout Catholic,” said Cardinal Raymond Burke, prefect of the Supreme Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura in Rome.

Burke’s rebuke came during an interview with the Minneapolis-based Catholic Servant newspaper in July, but only came to national attention after another Catholic paper, The Wanderer, reprinted the article online.

The Catholic Servant asked Burke, the most important court official in the Holy See, how Catholics should react to Pelosi’s refusal to comment when asked about Dr. Kermit Gosnell, who was convicted of manslaughter and first-degree murder charges for the death of a patient and seven babies who were killed after being born alive.

“As a practicing and respectful Catholic this is sacred ground to me when we talk about this. I don’t think it should have anything to do with politics,” Pelosi responded during a press conference earlier this year.

Burke said Canon 915 of the church’s code should be applied in Pelosi’s case: Those who are “obstinately persevering in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to Holy Communion.”

“To say that these are simply questions of Catholic faith, which have no part in politics, is just false and wrong,” said Burke a former archbishop of St. Louis and bishop of La Crosse, Wis.

“I fear for Congresswoman Pelosi if she does not come to understand how gravely in error she is,” Burke said.

Archbishop Donald Wuerl of Washington, D.C., said in May that he would not deny communion to Pelosi, stating that the church does not use communion as a “weapon.”

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289 Comments

  1. Hi, after reading this remarkable post i am as
    well delighted to share my familiarity here with colleagues.

  2. don says:

    the teaching authority of the Church is the Magisterium, which produces the catechism , read it be informed, Catechism of the Council of Trent !!!!!!

  3. Graeme Taylor says:

    Killing a baby in the womb is killing a baby in the womb. It is not difficult to understand, but it is bloody frightening.

  4. TPD says:

    Wow! Burke escaped again.Must have pulled that big red hat down again over his face. i say back to the dairy farm for the boy. St. Louis diocese must stop paying for his airfare back & forth to the USA. Nothing like an Irishman who likes to see his face on the front page! Serious Francis needs to call this guy on the carpet and give him a really good spanking. His pastorasl experience must have been with the cows who never spoke back to this non- worldly uneducated Catholic Christian. Sounds like he has never met the philosophy of the Jesus the Christ. Pharisee he is.

    • Ann (WOC) says:

      Agree TPD.

    • Tony says:

      Right on TPD

    • Mary Zore says:

      The Cardinal is doing the absolutely right thing. He is upholding the teachings of the Church and being a good Shepherd to pelosi and others like her. BRAVO!!!! The rest of the comments here seem to come from lapsed Catholics.

    • Ted says:

      You are as ignorant as they come. You have no faith and I doubt even know who God is. I will pray for you but you should refrain from critical judgement of something you can not understand.

    • This is a manifestly modernist diatribe against a prelate who is doing what he vowed to do: defend the faith from all enemies within and without..Pelosi is an apostate. Try reading some official teachings rather than pagan voodoo yoga or other pagan devil religions,.

  5. Ann (WOC) says:

    Yes ssoldie, I have a lot of problems with divisive in the church, or anywhere? Don’t you? Why not?

    • Ann (WOC) says:

      As for Geoff, Eucharist means that not only the bread and wine are transformed into “the creator of the universe,” but the community is transformed into the body of Christ. All are sinners, all are brothers and sisters and one who divides up that “mystical body”, that community, who threatens, bludgeons, judges with the Eucharist is no “shepherd” in the likes of Jesus. If you look at Burke’s career, he has always divided.

      • JMurray says:

        You are amazing in your ignorance! Whose voice are you listening to…the deceiver?

        • Ann (WOC) says:

          What or who are you talking about?

          • JMurray says:

            You Ann (WOC), you want Burke to go against his call to lead people to heaven, not hell…sometimes you have to be devisive. Enuf said.

            • Ann (WOC) says:

              No JMurray, Enuf said is not enough; Enuf said is the title of a current movie, not an explanation as to why divisiveness is a strategy, why Burke is leading people to heaven (!?) or why I am ignorant or a deceiver. Eucharist means, literally, “thanksgiving”, Jesus never excluded anyone — the “pure” legalistic Pharisees engaged in that divisive behavior, and “Communion” means participation in the body of Christ, not judgment or exclusion. If one chooses to not receive Communion/Eucharist, that is the choice of their conscience (Judas left on his own), not the decision of some puffed up, divisive cleric whose only value is the narrow interpretation of canon law for the edification of the self-righteous and the destruction of the body of Christ.

              • JMurray says:

                I always wonder why one calls himself Catholic, but does not believe her teachings or want to follow them.I do not know how you interpret 1Cor 11:27. Does it not mean what it says if you are in sin? Maybe one who supports killing babies is not in sin in some peoples eyes. That is why our nation is so morally corrupt.Weeping for children killed outside the womb,but no problem killing them inside the womb.

                • Ann (WOC) says:

                  I Cor. 11:27 places the decision in the one who receives Eucharist, not in a self-appointed cleric. . . who doesn’t even live in the US, knows nothing about women’s health and even less about Eucharist. You may be a good, self-righteous Catholic, JMurray,but you do not know how to read I Cor. 11.27 and, like Burke, you’re certainly no scripture scholar.

                  • JMurray says:

                    So a warning means nothing in scripture, why have it? You are suppose to warn people of their sin.To try to discredit people by calling us self righteous is all you can do. Do you think Christ was devisive? And I did not see an answer to why you call yourself Catholic if you don’t follow her teachings but argue against them. Read Matthew 10:34-36
                    Did Jesus say he came to unite people or to divide people?
                    He said that He would be the cause of division in families over the truth.

                    • Concerned says:

                      Jmurray – have you warned those politicians you support about the warning in Luke 16:19-31? Or have you erased that verse?

                  • JMurray says:

                    Liberals Always Tell You Which Conservatives They Fear the Most. Thanks for revealing your fear of authority.

                    • Ann (WOC) says:

                      As for warnings in Scripture: the only people Jesus ever “warned” were the greedy wealthy who disregarded the needs of the poor (eye of the needle, etc.) and the self-righteous Pharisees (whited sepulchers, etc.)who completely misunderstood his ministry. No, I do not think Jesus was divisive; Jesus was challenging and a “troublemaker” to the establishment who set themselves up in judgment of others — especially sinners, the poor and the outcast. If he divided anyone, it was the self-righteous from those they attacked. The only legitimate authority/ethics is one that arises from love; your arid canon law does nothing but separate one from his/her neighbor and ultimately from God. Instead of acting with a “grateful” and “transformed” heart, these legalistic and arid canonical carryings on do nothing but alienate people and destroy the church.

                    • Concerned says:

                      Conservatives always skip the parts of Scripture that has anything to do with Social Justice. If it’s not in their political platform, it means nothing. Let’s see who else did that, oh yeah the Pharisees.

                • Catholic Lady says:

                  The problem with quoting scripture is that most people doing so only quote the verse they think is needed to win their argument. continue on to 1Cor 11:28 Let a man examine himself, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29 Fro any one who eats and drinks with descerning the body eats and drinks judgement upon himself.
                  discern – 1. to perceive, as with sight or mind; apprehend 2. to discriminatementally, recognize subtle differences 3. to distinguish
                  continue on to vs. 33. So then, my brethren, when you come together to eat, wait for one another – 34. if any one is hungry, let him eat at home – lest you come together to be condemned.

                  • Catholic Lady says:

                    This is a warning against gluttony. The Church gathering to partake in the Communion meal were eating the bread and drinking the wine to ease their physical hunger & thirst – failing to perceive or to distinguish it – as the body of Christ.

        • Concerned says:

          Ann (WOC) would never listen to you – the real deceiver.

          • Concerned says:

            that’s to jmurray – the deceiver.

          • Ann (WOC) says:

            Right Concerned. I think JMurray originally determined the “deceiver” to mean “Satan,” but then switched it. He clearly wasn’t thinking when he changed the deceiver to “Ann (WOC)”. I don’t think he’s thinking most of this stuff through, just doin’ the platitudes.

      • JMurray says:

        Cardinal Prefect of the Supreme Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura seems like an important assignment and one with a deep understanding of the Catholic faith. The cafeteria Catholics who like to pick and choose what they like are all over the place. As a convert of 4 different churches before I became Catholic, let me tell you to know the truth is to set you free. I weep like Christ for those who do not see it. Maybe we should take a look at who is the devisive one.

        • Ann (WOC) says:

          Jesus wept over the destruction of Jerusalem; perhaps you should be weeping over the damage caused by those who attempt to cause division and discord. Besides, often such theatrics are not helpful in the real world. Reaching out to those in need is what we are called to do.

          • JMurray says:

            We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are LIFE Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. If you don’t have LIFE what good is anything else. You can’t have liberty or pursuit of happiness without life!!! No one said we aren’t to reach out and help others, but what hypocrisy to say you care about the needs of others when unborn are slaughtered in the womb, and our politicians do not have the back bone to stand up for them…God have mercy on them. All this love and getting along to condone sin is not what we are called to.

            • Concerned says:

              Jmuray you are quoting a political statement and mixing politics with faith. That’s the problem with the narrow minded, you think that you can reduce God to your political point of view. You want human laws and political action. I can’t seem to remember one time in the Gospels where Jesus organized his disciples to protest the Roman government. Jesus didn’t bother trying to get the civil government involved in his mission. This isn’t a question about abortion being right or wrong. This is a question of using the gift of the Eucharist, Jesus’ gift, as a political tool. And that’s what you promote. And it is proven by the fact that you don’t apply the same standards to anything that is not of your political agenda. Jesus made it quite clear that taking care of the poor is not an option. Read Luke 16:19-31, the Gospel for this Sunday. The rich man went to the netherworld for his disregard for the poor. But your political side does not take this seriously nor do you hold accountable the Catholic politicians who do not do so. Why? Because your political leaning is that the poor don’t need to be helped. So you disregard Jesus very clear warning. You put your soul in jeopardy. But if someone were to say you should be denied Communion or the politicians who are on your side who voted to drastically reduce assistance to the poor were denied Communion you would think it was an outrage. So it’s not your faith that leads you, it is your politics. Don’t mix the two, it doesn’t work. Don’t mix God into your politics because you are belittling God. Eucharist is a gift to sinners the right and the left. Jesus did not call disciples to be be enforcers, he called them to invite.

              • JMurray says:

                You never tell us why you call yourselves Catholic when you disagree with her teachings. I cannot get an answer from any of you people. You all have your same talking points and we hear them over and over. No more said but prayers for conversion of hearts.

                • Concerned says:

                  Jmurray – you choose which teachings you will be in line with. And see not one of you will answer the question about the “right” and Luke 16:19-31. You pick and choose according to your political agenda. Then when confronted you go to the “why do you call yourself Catholic?” Why do you call yourself a follower of Jesus when you do not accept everything he taught?

                  • Jmurray says:

                    I knew you would not answer it! So you had to ask a question to me instead of your answer to deflect the question. And this discussion did start over politics and abortion if you remember the headline in this article. Also I was not calling Ann the deceiver, it is satan. but I can see this is a waste of time and energy to continue this discussion with you. There are many churches willing to take Catholics who disagree with the church.Ana believe me I was in many of them.

                    • Ann (WOC) says:

                      Than ks for that JMurray. I don’t think any of us are “deceivers”; rather, we speak from the heart and attempt to understand through dialogue. I respect our respective rights to disagree.

                    • Concerned says:

                      I have been asking my question throughout this discussion and not one of you pretenders dare to answer.

                  • Catholic Lady says:

                    Luke 18:21-23 And He said, “All these I HAVE OBSERVED FROM MY YOUTH.” And when Jesus heard it, He said to him, “One thing you still lac. Sell all that you have and distribute to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.” But when he heard this he became sad, for he was very rich.

    • like libs who are hate-filled and divisive right? is that the yardstick for orthodoxy, divisiness? then all libs need to hit the exits. No one is forcing you to stay in a religion who obviously hate

  6. JMurray says:

    It is so hard for those who think they are the “wise” and smarter than God that maybe they should humble themselves as “little children” and look at the eternal consequences of their choices. God knew this (amazing)!
    The wise will be put to shame; they will be dismayed and trapped. Since they have rejected the word of the LORD, what kind of wisdom do they have? (Jeremiah 8:9)
    AND ALSO
    But the foolish things of the world hath God chosen, that he may confound the wise; and the weak things of the world hath God chosen, that he may confound the strong. (1 Cor. 1:27)
    What more can I say? You will never convince the “wise” that they are not smarter than God…

  7. [...] Según Catholic News la controversia sobre el tema surgió cuando Pelosi se negó a comentar sobre el caso del doctor Kermit Gosnell, quien fue declarado culpable de homicidio y asesinato en primer grado por la muerte de un paciente y siete bebés que fueron asesinados después de haber nacido con vida. [...]

  8. Michael McHale says:

    Not only is this Canonical penalty long overdue, but Mrs. Pelosi and her ilk are also- and more significantly insofar as her eternal welfare is concerned- almost certainly excommunicated under Canon 1364.

    • Concerned says:

      So Michael McHale, how do you justify Paul Ryan and Luke 16:19-31? Should Paul Ryan and his ilk be denied Communion in a similar fashion?

  9. pat johnson says:

    Hey all you morons attacking Cardinal Burke – answer this question – if this were the 1930′s and Pelosi was condoning Hitler’s extermination of the Jews, would you still be defending her “right” to receive the Eucharist? This woman is cooperating with Evil. She has the blood of innocents on her hands and yet you’re DEFENDING her? Good for Cardinal Burke! It’s high time Catholic officials spit in the face of political correctness!

    • Concerned says:

      oh gosh you have such an intelligent argument – NOT. Get a grip on yourself – comparing this to the actions of Hitler is ridiculous.

      • pat johnson says:

        “Concerned”, you criticize my argument but offer no reason why it’s not valid. You’re right about one thing, though. Hitler’s actions were actually less heinous than the slaughters of children in the womb, for this reason. The Jews and other victims were not TOTALLY HELPLESS TO DEFEND THEMSELVES! And people could SEE the victims being carted off to the ovens and camps, unlike the infants-in-the-womb who can neither speak nor scream and who are totally hidden from view. Killing the totally defenseless is a particularly evil act and this is what the odious Pelosi (and you) are defending. You don’t seem very CONCERNED to me.

        • Concerned says:

          It is so ridiculous because you are actually proposing that the church continue in a way that models hitler’s beliefs – do not think for yourself, do not disagree, do not waver from the course of action that is outlined for you or you are considered an enemy of the state. Hitler wanted the perfect race, you want the perfect people, well perfect in your eyes anyway, to be exclusive members of the church. You have adopted Hitler’s mentality and beliefs and try to disguise it as faith. It’s total garbage.

    • ssoldie says:

      Hear, hear, you are so right on, kudos to you for speaking the TRUTH. and spit in the face of some of our so called shepherds, such as Cardinal Wuerl. God bless you

  10. lome trinidad says:

    Archbishop Donald Wuerl of Washington, D.C
    Didn’t our Lord told Peter in
    Matthew 16:18
    And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this …
    rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

    The church was in the offensive from the beginning.
    what do you mean that we can’t use the scriptures to fight evil?
    How much more of committing sacrilege to the most “Holy Presence “of Christ in the Eucharist to one who is an unrepentant sinners.

  11. Ann (WOC) says:

    Burke is a divisive rather than a pastoral figure, more concerned with narrow interpretations of canon law than the salvation of souls or the reflection the love of God in his ministry. He seems to be going after someone for their private views, for following their conscience. Appointed by Benedict, a supporter of the SSPX Society and an advocate of the Tridentine Mass he is clearly a conservative in the least fruitful sense of that position. His threats are neither helpful to Rep. Pelosi nor do they build up the church.

    • Ann (WOC) says:

      A priest/Eucharistic minister may not withhold Eucharist on the basis that one can never know the heart of another. The church’s pastoral duty, in answer to Jason, is to celebrate the Eucharist with all who came to the table. Jesus never withheld sharing the bread and cup; Judas left, Jesus did not say you may not participate. He indicated that one would betray him, but he never withheld participation. Penance is a sacrament of forgiveness, not condemnation; Eucharist is a sacrament of thanksgiving and participation, not judgment and exclusion.

      • GEOFF KIERNAN says:

        What do you mean by ‘Eucharist’? I thought you were talking about the reception of the Body and Blood soul and divinity of the creator of the universe? I which case it is about the utmost reverence respect and humility of a creature before his God. Judgement and exclusion have nothing to do with it.

      • ssoldie says:

        Hey Ann(WOC) Read canon (915) read, listen, learn.

      • JMurray says:

        Maybe he doesn’t know what is in his heart, but the scriptures tell us you will know them by their fruit…Matthew 7:15-20

    • lome trinidad says:

      Archbishop Donald Wuerl of Washington, D.C
      Didn’t our Lord told Peter in
      Matthew 16:18
      And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this …
      rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

      The church was in the offensive from the beginning.
      what do you mean that we can’t use the scriptures to fight evil?
      How much more of committing sacrilege in giving the most “Holy Presence “of Christ in the Eucharist to one who is unrepentant , who is in grave mortal sin?

    • tanya says:

      Pelosi considers it a right to be able to receive communion, and it is not a right, it is a gift to those in the state of grace. Mrs. Pelosi is a scandal to the whole world, making light of the gift that is entrusted to the Church. By her scandal she leading others along on the same road as she herself is on. Not a good scenario. And how do we know she has a change of heart? She herself needs to make a public statement about that since she is a public figure.

      • Concerned says:

        if it is a gift to those who are “in a state of grace” it is a reward. That’s not what Eucharist is. Gifts are given – no strings attached.

    • ssoldie says:

      So whats so wrong with being ‘divisive’ you seem to have a problem with the SSPX, and the Traditional Latin Mass, and conservatives in general. The “churh” has been in a crisis for the last 45+ yrs. Where have you been.”by their fruits you will know them”

  12. StatVeritas7 says:

    Bravo Cardinal Burke and may God bless you and protect you from the wolves.
    This is about Religion it is about being a Catholic, and what religion does is to remind us that whatever we do on this earth, we will have to give an account to the Almighty God, he is always there watching us. He doesn’t sleep and everything we do is recorded in the books in Heaven.
    Abortion goes against Church Teaching and if Pelosi calls herself a Catholic she should act like one.
    What she is doing is giving a bad example as a Catholic politician and encouraging sin.
    This is very serious to her soul and to the souls of others.

  13. GEOFF KIERNAN says:

    It seems that Cardinal BURKE does at least possess external regalia that is common to men only. Something that is sadly missing from a lot of prelates of the church…Western Australia

  14. JMurray says:

    Bottom line, if we believe the scriptures and love the Lord, why would we want to put our souls in danger? Very clear is a warning in 1Cor. 11:27 to us…even Nancy should be able to comprehend it. Satan is more than happy to trick us into making excuses for our decisions that are against God’s Word. If only more could see the spiritual battle that is constantly waging against our souls!

  15. Joris says:

    1) Science does not define “human person.” 2) Politics does not define sin. 3) Does Canon Law (or any law) trump the gospel? 4) Would making abortion a crime affect the sinfulness? 5) Name-calling and judging others is against the Sermon on the Mount. 6) Blessed Cardinal Newman wrote a whole book on the development of Christian doctrine–reminding that some things in gradeschool religion are still true–not others. 7) Few of us lay people have the knowledge–much less the sanctity–to tell others–cardinals or women–what to do–it is a sin of pride if we have a conscience and a sense of humility.

  16. Ann (WOC) says:

    Well stated throughout Concerned. You defended all of us sinners magnificently and called out the hypocrites. Well done.

  17. Anita says:

    Cardinal Burke is absolutely correct. Not only Pelosi, but all the other so called Catholic politicians that believe in their own interpretation of the faith, not what Jesus taught us. This is definitely NOT a “pick and choose religion”. we either believe what Jesus taught or we should not call ourselves Catholics and notdesecrate the Holy Sacrament of Communion, by receiving it unworhily.

  18. Jack says:

    I think obese people should be denied communion. They are very obviously persisting in the sin of gluttony, one of the 7 deadly sins. Sorry about that, Cardinal Burke.

    • Concerned says:

      LOL. Unfortunately I doubt that many of the exclusionists will get the message.

    • Michael says:

      Hey Jack you are obviously not catholic and if you are you have no clue about your faith….anyway it makes no difference..she is only receiving a cookie in the New Order Church..

    • Lindsey says:

      Really that’s your best comparison? You’re comparing obesity as an act of self inflicted personal – physical abuse with the physical medical procedure of removing a fetus or shall we say killing sacred life given by God? Each time one receives the blood and body of Christ – one must come one with Christ. Both of you and Concerned are politically motivated. Stop using bad examples and reverse psychology.

      • Jack says:

        Enough of that liberal clap-trap, Lindsey. Sin is sin, period. Gluttony is a mortal, deadly sin. We have lost our sense of sin!

        • Alainna says:

          Obviously Jack you don’t understand what it’s like to be overweight. And gluttony is a vice, not a mortal sin. If you look at the Catechism of the Catholic Church number 1866 it lists gluttony under vices. Not Mortal sin. I have been overweight much of my life, and not by choice-due to different medications and many medical problems and years I’ve spent in hospitals (I’m 32, soon to be 33). I recently lost some of the weight that was hard to lose due to a diet to help control my seizure disorder(which I’ve had since I was 8 months old, and only recently got it under control after going on a diet after a brain surgery, and several other surgeries during the trial for the main one). I’ve had to sit in a hospital bed a lot of my life and be on special diets most of my life! I gained weight because of medications (primarily from the steroids I had to take to get the kidney disorder I had from age 3 ’til my 7th grade year into remission), now I’m at a somewhat healthier weight, but for my height I’m still somewhat considered overweight. Would YOU keep ME from receiving Christ because of something beyond my control?? I never asked to become overweight when I was younger. But I was, as a side effect of my medication and medical problems. People don’t always just eat.

  19. Chris says:

    Then what is Weurl’s solution? If one is struggling with some habitual sin seeking the Lord’s healing in the Eucharist & publicy witness’s a person who purposely & obstinately disobeys the church’s teaching & remains in grave sin receive the Eucharist, what kind of message does that send to the one struggling? It’s OK to sin & receive communion?

  20. Stellahermit says:

    Sadly, Archbishop is a coward.

    • Concerned says:

      no wonder you’re a hermit stella, you make no sense. Back to seclusion with you.

      • Chris says:

        Concerned,
        I take it you side with Pelosi. Living the teachings of the catholic church are not some made up rules that are all “don’t do this, don’t do that.” It is Divine teaching that Jesus Himself instituted for all those who have “eyes to see & ears to here” to follow Him. There can be no lifestyle that is committed to an instrinsic evil that can at the same time say they are a “practing catholic”. That is believing ones own lies.

        • Concerned says:

          I am pointing out he hypocrisy of denying the Eucharist. Pope Francis is so right about the narrow focus of this issue – like that’s all there is. So I have posed this question other places here and I’ll pose it to you Chris. If this is all about following the “rules” then where is the same public outcry over those Catholic politicians who do not follow the church’s teaching on taking care of the poor? and don’t tell me it’s not the same degree of sin. Read the Gospel parable of the rich man and Lazarus (the Gospel for this weekend) Jesus makes it abundantly clear that the rich man’s failure to help Lazarus (even though he wasn’t asked to do so) was a grave sin – in the jargon of those who want to condemn – it is mmortal sin. The rich man is sent to what would be called hell. So therefore, unless you deny the teachings of Jesus, this is something to be taken seriously – in your own terms, this is not a made up rule, itis based on Divine teaching. So then is not Paul Ryan and every Catholic politician who voted to reduce or stop aid to the poor guilty of grave sin in the public arena. Why do the same rules not apply? Is it okay as long as you are outspoken against abortion? Does the being “opposed” to abortion negate the sin of not caring for the poor? So then should caring for the poor negate the huge sin of not being outspoken against abortion? Isn’t it all about politics and not about God?

  21. Deacon Bernie says:

    From those to whom much has been given much is expected. This is not a generalized discussion; it is about one person who was second in line to the presidency for four years and may again get to that point. Ms Pelosi is not a private person.
    She has chosen to be what she is, an important part of our government. Because of this fact alone, she carries a greater burden than most of us. Whether she means to or not, she is newsworthy figure. Hence, she is watched, and as is unfortunately true, people will draw conclusions from how she acts. That may or may not be fair, but it is a fact. We hear in the Gospel how the Pharisees demanded of Jesus why his disciples did not perform the proper ritual before eating. Like as not, the Pharisees observed others who failed to perform but the disciples were close to Jesus and their actions commanded more attention than the ordinary person.
    I am no fan of Ms Pelosi, but this is one of those times I can sympathize with her.

    • Recovering Catholic says:

      Nancy Pelosi is an elected congresswoman and took an oath [sworn on a Bible to God]to uphold the Constitution, did she not? Therefore, she would be a liar and a hypocrite if she did not defend a woman’s right to choose since our Supreme Court handed down that Decision.

      • Chris says:

        THe Supreme Court does not trump God.

        • Concerned says:

          and Jesus never told his disciples to get into politics

          • Ann (WOC) says:

            And it is doctrinally “illegal”to deny anyone communion!

            • Ann (WOC) says:

              Further, there is separation of Church and State.
              As RC pointed out, she is required to uphold the Constitution.

            • RuariJM says:

              Where on Earth do you get that from?

              I’d be obliged if you would quote relevant Canon Law and/or established Doctrine and explain how it overrides the Catechism’s instructions on the requirements and preparation for receiving the Eucharist.

          • Lindsey says:

            If you are catholic and baptized – you’re born into this world as a Christian obeying the ten commandments. Not of this world making allowances for killing God’s unborn spirits. These same people claim war is horrible (and it is) but in God’s eyes – war is on every innocent life that does not get born naturally.

            • Catholic Lady says:

              Sorry Lindsy but I must disagree – being born into a Catholic Family and being baptized does not guarantee that you will oby the ten commandments. Nor does going to church make you a Christian any more than standing in your garage make you a car!!
              I was shocked, confused, bewildered
              As I entered Heaven’s door,
              Not by the beauty of it all,
              Nor the lights or it’s decor.
              But it was the folks in Heaven
              Who made me sputter and gasp -
              The thieves, the liars, the sinners,
              The alcoholics and the trash.
              There stood the kid from seventh grade
              Who swiped my lunch money twice,
              Next to him was my old neighbor
              Who never said naything nice.
              Herb, who I always thought was rotting away in hell,
              Was sitting pretty on cloud nine,
              Looking incredibly well.
              I nudged Jesus, ‘Whats the deal?
              I would love to hear Your take.
              How’d all these sinners get up here?
              God must’ve made a mistake.
              ‘And whys everyone so quiet,
              So somber – give me a clue.
              ‘Hush, child,’ He said, ‘they’re all in shoc.
              No one thought they’d be seeing you.’
              JUDGE NOT!

              • Lindsey says:

                Not judging. We are all sinners but we need to stand up for all life at all times. No exceptions. Life is hard, as you know growing up in large catholic family. Through our difficulties and good times we always have free will; but as a PRACTICING catholic, when you fall you get back up. We don’t judge but fight for freedom for all peoples. Nice poem though….are you a Lit teacher?

                • Catholic Lady says:

                  As a Catholic believer I obey the teachings of the Church. I would do my up- most to persuade a woman not to have an abortion. I also suport out reach to women who are in transition – and those who find themselves pregnant and for some reason facing their pregnancy alone. However I respect and do not judge other women leaving any judgment of others, to the One, who alone is worthy; my Lord Jesus.

  22. Gloria Schotten says:

    My humble opinion; I really do think Cardinal
    Wuerl owes us an explanation, no matter how you slice it. The Pope in Rome cannot err in faith and morals, Cardinal Wuerl does not have this privilege, his is an opinion only, a dicey one at that.

  23. KFrazier says:

    Many views expressed here are reflected in the pews. I get the feeling many do not TRULY believe in the real presence. I do not see the reverence for the Eucharist that I saw growing up. This is now showing up in the attitudes of the politicians and gay pride people who use it, maybe not as a weapon but as a badge of righteousness. “See I can receive communion therefore what I’m doing is ok.” This is worse than usingit as a weapon (which btw it IS-a weapon against Satan) We are the salt of the earth but if the salt has lost its seasoning its worthless. Lets get out there and season things up a bit. and if the mainstream doesn’t like it, let them go away.

  24. Paul Raul says:

    This is a matter of Life and Death! An Elective abortion is directly killing a human-person. (Scientifically Proven)
    Nothing is equal to elective abortion. Abortion is killing an ‘innocent’ and ‘helpless’ baby boy or girl. Without Life none of the other issues matter. Every Life is unique,Life beings upon conception and DNA defines immediately whether the child will be a boy or girl. Each Life is unique Gift from God and can never be brought back by human effort. Nancy Pelosi, a Public Figure that sets policies has worked day and night, supporting, promoting, and voting for Elective Abortions. Check her voting record! She must do more than confess to the priest privatly that she is sorry, if she wishes to be in the correct dispostion to receive Holy Communion. She must ‘Publicly’ Confess, she has the Nation’s Platform, she must say that she will no longer support abortion, sterilization, birth-control pills and sex change operations, on demand and she regrets with her whole Mind, Heart, and Soul that she ever got involved with such a horrific and Evil Plan. This is if she wishes to be absolved by Jesus. A ‘Public Scandal’ that has occured over and over requires a ‘Public Confession’. Pelosi, Biden, John Kerry, Sebelious, and many more at all levels of government, have all been quilty of ‘Publicly Supporting and Voting for the heinious crime of Elective Abortions. They all claimed to be ‘Devout’ Roman Catholics.This all happened in a Free Country, there are no excuses for their stupid Votes, they could have voted NO. You say it is legal? It is Bad Law, It was legal in Germany too. They are claiming to be Roman Catholic, therefore, they must abide by the Teaching of the Roman Catholic Church to be in a State of Grace to Receive Holy Communion.. It is sacrilegious to Receive Holy Communion while in a state of a ‘Serious and Fatal Sin’.(Grieivious Sin) It is even worse when a ‘Public Figure’ is committing this sacrilegious act. The reason is because these faults and poor examples are observed by the youth and the people think it is okay to vote for these politicians when it is not. These politcians have been and continue to be direct participants in the elective abortions (killing innocent helpless human-persons by their support, promotion, and votes) for many, many years. Now these same politicians have forced everyone, in the United States of America, to participate in these abortions, 4,700 abortions each and every day in the USA, through the Affordable Healthcare Act a.k.a. Obamacare. Forced to buy Insurance Premiums and pay Taxes that will pay for abortion on demand (full-term). Plain Evil!
    Cardinal Burke does not want to participate and enable these ‘Sacrilegious Acts’, by giving Holy Communion to these frauds. He knows he would be personally responsible in participating and enabling these politician’s messages instead of the Gospel.
    Why is Cardinal Wuerl calling Holy Communion a weapon?. Holy Communion is a ‘Who’, Jesus Christ Himself. Would you allow Jesus Christ to enter into your dirty filthy house? Wouldn’t you clean it up and invite Him to stay Forever and Ever?
    Does Cardinal Wuerl believe in an ‘Authentic’ True Confession? Or is it just a revolving door? Or even necessary?

  25. truth says:

    At the Last Supper Judas did not eat but left early. Thank you Cardinal Burke for being truthful rather than seek false popularity. You show courage, honesty and integrity. For this you will not be popular but Jesus will say well done good and faithful servant. God Grant you Many Years in your well earned position. Let us pray for each other always.

    • Catholic Lady says:

      Mark 14:18 And as they were at table eating, Jesus said, “Truly, I say to you, one of yu will betray me, one who is eating with me.

    • ann says:

      Well said. The Church is in the business of saving souls. If we are made to feel uncomfortable in our actions, then priests are doing their job. Denying Communion let’s us know how serious our sin is and how in danger we are of losing our soul. True Catholics should know this without question.

      • Catholic Lady says:

        Ann – most Catholics know the Church’s teachings but some see fit to ignore them. Love your neighbour as yourself – Do not judge others – feed the poor – take care of the widows and orphans – remove the moat from you own eye before attempting to remove the splinter of the eye of your brother,,etc. God has given us all the freedom to make our own choices if one choses wrongly then that person has to answer to God..

      • Concerned says:

        ann, the church is in the business of making disciples – it is the only mission. Jesus said go make disciples. He din’t say enforce the rules. He said make disciples. He did not say get involved in politics, he said make disciples. He did not say make up new rules, he said make disciples. He did not say decide who is worthy of me and who is not, he said go make disciples. People like Burke don’t work for Jesus, they work for themselves.

    • Concerned says:

      untruth – are you making up your own Scripture now. You may be inspired, but it doesn’t seem to be of the Divine nature. Judas didn’t eat? What was he watching his weight? I think Jesus might be telling Burke, nice fashion show, but what did you do for me?

  26. Isaiah Bennett, OCDS says:

    Here’s a little something for those who think they can define Pope Francis as an airy-fairy sweetheart taking a stand against the Scriptures and the Tradition and practice of the Church:

    Pope Francis just excommunicated a priest in Melbourne.

    Dissident priest Greg Reynolds has been both defrocked and excommunicated over his support for women priests and gays – the first person ever excommunicated in Melbourne.

    The order comes direct from the Vatican, not at the request of Melbourne Archbishop Denis Hart.

    The excommunication document – written in Latin and giving no reason – was dated May 31, meaning it comes under the authority of Pope Francis who made headlines on Thursday calling for a less rule-obsessed church.

    Father Reynolds, who resigned as a parish priest in 2011 and last year founded Inclusive Catholics, said he had expected to be laicised (defrocked), but not excommunicated. But it would make no difference to his ministry.

    Let us pray for Greg Reynolds and all those whom he scandalized.

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/church-dumps-rebel-priest-20130920-2u5jp.html#ixzz2fiY6xEVn

    • Tony says:

      Isaiah, we don’t know the reason, it is none of our business, so whats the big deal?
      Are you going to tell us when Francis passes gas next?

    • Concerned says:

      is OCDS an acronym for Obscure Catholic Desiring Satan?

    • lisa b says:

      I think the point of Pope Francis’ comments were that the Church like God will not change, and it is not necessary to continually discuss approving abortion or homosexual marriage, it’s not going to happen, on the contrary, those that support these things need to quiet down, and start loving everyone. Pelosi should not recieve communion, she supports murder.

      • Concerned says:

        then are you willing to say that Catholic politicians who support ignoring the poor and cause death – like Paul Ryan – should be denied the Eucharist as well? If not, isn’t it hypocritical?

  27. cjmorley says:

    I have been taught that anyone who murders or connected to the commiting of murder or has knowledge has commited a mortal sin, and is not permitted to receive Holy Euchrist. It is a sacrilege to receive Communion with a grevious sin on their soul. Ms. Pelosi who claims to be a good Catholic, a responsible Catholic is aware of this fact, and should excuse herself from receiving Communion until she goes to Confession. This is simple grade school Religion teaching.
    I hope Ms. Polosi know she will rot in Hell, if there is no forgivness from GOD.

  28. Serafino says:

    No one is using Holy Commuion as a “weapon.” The reception of Holy Communion in the Catholic Church is not a personal and private matter ,it has an ecclesial dimension as well. In other words, at the time of Eucharistic Communion, one is not only in communion with Christ, but is one with the Catholic Church in matters of faith and morals. Polosi and and the rest of the so called “catholic ” politicians have publicly rejected by their actions the teachings of the Church, and are no longer in communion .Therefore, the reception of Holy Communion would be a betrayal of the sign of unity and communion in the church which the Eucharist signifies . Both Cardinal Buke and Cardinal Wurel are aware of this teaching. Burke, as a faithful son of the Church, is doing his duty in explaining this teaching, Wurel is not.

  29. SRP says:

    Thank God for Archbishop Wuerl! “Judge not, etc…..” Such blanket lightning bolts from Olympus are barbaric and solve nothing. As to BURKE, well, how in God’s name did he get THAT job. I suspect the St. Pius Boys would have a place for him.

    • Richard Prudlo says:

      Wuerl is an archbishop of what denomination? And SRP must stand for Sorry Reposing Protestant.

    • Jason says:

      You have no clue what you’re writing about. Neither, it seems, does Archbishop Wuerl. It is the Church’s pastoral DUTY to withhold Communion from people like Pelosi. She condemns herself each time she receives. His Grace Abp Wuerl needs to be asked about that.

      • Ann (WOC) says:

        That is incorrect Jason. A priest/Eucharistic minister may not withhold Eucharist on the basis that one can never know the heart of another. The church’s pastoral DUTY is to celebrate the Eucharist with all who came to the table. Jesus never withheld sharing the bread and cup; Judas left, Jesus did not say you may not participate. He indicated that one would betray him, but he never withheld participation. Penance is a sacrament of forgiveness, not condemnation; Eucharist is a sacrament of thanksgiving and participation, not judgment and exclusion.

    • bob says:

      Thank God for Cardinal Burke! A true son of the Church! Evil triumphs when men are silent and stand by and do nothing. And btw, you should not take the Lord’s name in vain. Shows your true colors.

    • Zeebus says:

      There are rules to follow, SRP. You want to be part of this church, then you need to follow them. Outright protesting these rules, as Pelosi does, means you’re no longer on the team. Go somewhere else. It’s not that hard to figure out.

      • Recovering Catholic says:

        Jesus was part of the synagogue; he violated their rules and regulations left and right and called the Pharisees “hypocrites” to boot.

        • Concerned says:

          and Recovering people like Zeebus, bob and jason and the other exclusionists posting here would have kicked Jesus out as well. If Jesus came back today and said anything contrary to their narrow minded, self-absorbed, let-me-feel-better-about-me, way of thinking, they would kick him out today – or at least tell him he could not receive himself.

    • John D says:

      SRP, another phony “catholic.” Iis it protestant, Jew or atheist, SRP?? Sorry Reprobate Pighead is it?

  30. J Cole says:

    They know evil when they see it. She is evil.

  31. Michele says:

    I believe this is more of an issue with scandal. A public politician promoting the death of babies is a scandal. And if Church Law is not to be applied here, why have Church Law. Wuerl should counsel her and if she continues to be obstinate, follow Cannon Law.

    • Concerned says:

      There is quite a difference between “promoting death” and saying someone has the ability to choose. I can believe that abortion is wrong but still believe that a person must make their own choice. After all, isn’t this what God does? God shows the way and has given us free will. Let’s face it, this is nothing but politics. If I like a politician he/she is acting righteous and holy. If I don’t like the politician he/she is the most sinful person. If it were not politics there would be a huge outcry about those who voted to decrease assistance to the poor – helping the poor is not an option in the words of Jesus. Just pay close attention the Gospel this weekend about the rich man and Lazarus.

      • codephined says:

        Again; you’re only “Concerned” about social justice. Social Justice is championed over the spiritual welfare of people because of the person’s lack of spirituality.

        Read Pope Pius IX’s Syllabus of Errors. Error has no rights… no one has the “right” to choose to kill their unborn child.

        • Concerned says:

          you had better read the Gospel this weekend – it is non-negotiable in the messsage of Jesus – are you questioning the validity of Jesus’ words? Are you denying the importance Jesus gave to this? I am only concerned for your soul and would hate for you to face the same fate as the rich man. But of course you know more than Jesus in your own mind.

          • codephined says:

            You are trying to apply Jesus’ words to the ability to have the choice to kill your own child? Do you realize how insane that is?

            I don’t think I’m the one that needs to reflect on the Gospel.

            • Concerned says:

              and you are saying the message of Jesus has no weight in your world.

              • Concerned says:

                perhaps codephined you should change your name to Dives (the name given to the rich man by St. Jerome) because he didn’t pay attention to the message of Jesus either.

                • codephined says:

                  I’m sorry; you’re wayyy too out of touch for me. Your liberal political views should not intertwine with the Holy Catholic religion.

                  God bless, “Concerned”

                  • Concerned says:

                    just a cop out for someone who can’t defend his position. As Pope Francis said the lack of critical thinking weakens the church.

                    • James says:

                      Concerned, where in the message of Jesus does it say that an individual for any purpose can do harm or mayhem to an innocent human being. Because that is what abortion is. The deliberate and conscious murder of another human person. I know you don’t want to confront that part of the discussion because it does not fit into your convenient liberal view of the choice of one an individual over another. How easy it is to throw out the phrase a “person has the right to choose” when you so subtlydance around what the choice is by cherrypicking verses from the gospel that you feel bolster your warped understanding of truth. So just answer this question without the song and dance, “Is it permissible for one human person to deliberately cause great bodily harm to another human person who is innocent of any wrong doing?

                    • Concerned says:

                      oh poor James you are under the impression you are greater than God? God gave every person the freedom to make choices – good or bad. and if you read everything I have said on here you would know that the argument I have made does not say that I don’t believe abortion is wrong. But so are many other actions. But the narrow minded harp on abortion as the only thing that matters. You call for people to be excluded because they think people can choose. But at the same time you ignore everything else that we are told by Christ that should be important. You don’t apply the same rules not because of faith, but because of politics. If you were basing it on faith you would be calling for the excommunication of every politician because they are all public figures and none of the get it right. But this isn’t about abortion – it is about people mixing faith with political views and they just don’t mix.

          • John D says:

            You’re in mortal sin, Mr. “Concerned.” You had better be “concerned!”

        • Recovering Catholic says:

          Does anybody still read Pope Pius IX’s Syllabus of Errors? He was looney tunes.

      • Paul Raul says:

        So you think feeding the poor is more important than protecting the helpless, innocent baby in the womb of a mother. It is evil to ‘choose’ to vote and promote, by law to condone the killing of the innocent. In many cases the mother is talked into having abortion because it is promoted exactly by people like Pelosi and Planned Parent”Hood”. Abortion on demand (full-term) is Scandalous for America. Luke 17:1 RHE: And Jesus said to His disciples: It is impossible that scandals should not come. But woe to him through whom they come!

        • Concerned says:

          it is you Paul Raul who think that there is no other issue but abortion. So, your club say you want to save souls and that gives you the right to promote denying someone the Eucharist. In the Gospel parable this weekend Jesus tells of the rich man and Lazarus. There is no denying or hedging what Jesus says in this parable. The rich man ignored the poor in the person of Lazarus. The rich man was thrown into the abyss – no chance to cross over. (you will hear this Gospel this weekend – so pay attention) So if Jesus says this is such a great sin, then anyone who ignores the poor is guilty of this and is damned to hell (or whatever you want to call the absence of God). Therefore, in the language your club likes to use, this would be a mortal sin – it completely breaks the union with God. So, every Catholic politician who votes against helping the poor or wants to cut assistance to the poor is guilty of this horrific sin. So, if your club’s reasoning is sincere, would this not mean that Paul Ryan and every Catholic politician who votes against assistance to the poor or reduces the assistance or does nothing to make sure people have a wage that will provide for their family, has their soul in jeopardy and should be saved. Since your club likes to say that denying Communion is for the sinner’s benefit, should you not also be promoting denying the Eucharist to everyone of those Catholic politicians as well? If not, doesn’t this prove it is a matter political view, not a matter of faith? Let’s hear the Paul Raul answer!

          • Paul Raul says:

            Life is not a “political” view. What on earth is wrong with you? Life is a political view? Where did you go to school; Georgetown University?

            • Concerned says:

              Political view is what you base your faith on. You demonstrate it from your comments. Democrats = bad. Republicans = holy. You’re a hypocrite who has tried to mix God with your politicaal leanings. You are a phony who is so narrow minded that if Jesus came back today and told you that you were off base, you would want him to be denied Communion. You are the new breed of Pharisee – and we know how much time Jesus had for them.

    • Recovering Catholic says:

      Nancy Pelosi is not promoting death; as a politician, she is following the Supreme Court’s Decision, which gives a woman the right to choose. What a woman chooses is up to that woman.

      • James says:

        RC, what if the women “chose” to enslave another human being? The supreme court determined that the federal government had no right to regulate slavery. (See Dredd Scott) Indentured servitude was a form of slavery and I am sure there are those who would not consider it in good conscience a moral wrong. Nancy Pelosi has been counseled numerous times by her pastors as to the immorality of abortion and the grave sin that it is, but she chose to play the “Choice” card, believing like Pontious Pilate that if she washes her hands she is inculpable. There is only one choice that pro aborts want and that is the absolute right of one human being over another up to and including murder. There is no other choice that is considered by the culture of death. How do you wash your hands of giving one human being the right to kill another who is innocent of any wrong doing? You do so by dehumanizing a human being as did the slave holders, the Nazis and the Islamist. “If it is not equal to us it can be justly eliminated”. So I will ask you RC the same question I have had to ask every person who promotes, defends, protects, and finances the abortion industry, “When is it okay for one human being to cause great bodily harm up to death to another human being who is completely innocent of any wrong doing or of giving tacit permission to do so?

      • Paul Raul says:

        Pelosi voted for and still promotes the Obamacare that has abortion on demand (full-term) and is forcing everyone to pay for them. She could have ‘chose’ to vote No. Pelosi follows the Democrat Platform (bible) and as a Democrat has promoted to extend abortion to (full-term) Roe v. Wade never allowed full-term abortions.

        • Ann (WOC) says:

          Obamacare (The Affordable Care Act) does not/nor can it promote full term abortion on demand. Full term abortion is controlled by each state. Federal Law legalizes only the first trimester; second and third are regulated by state. Further, “abortion on demand” is not a blanket cover; different insurance companies have different policies. And lastly, Obamacare doesn’t cover anything; it only requires that you get insurance and be responsible. And, if you can’t afford it, the government will help you pay; although with the competition of exchanges, insurance promises not only to be responsible but affordable.

          • Concerned says:

            people like Paul Rasul are fear mongers – they hope to instill fear in people by lies, half truths, misconceptions, rumors and hate. Then, he calls himself a follower of Jesus. oh what blind hypocrites.

    • Joseph says:

      Michele, yes it is a public scandal. But someone in the Vatican should counsel/reprimand Cardinal Wuerl that he is committing sacrilege when he gives Holy Communion to Pelosi and Joe Biden who are pro aborts…

  32. Recovering Catholic says:

    “Canon 915 of the church’s code should be applied to those who are ‘obstinately persevering in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to Holy Communion.’”
    //
    First, the Catholic Church teaches that in order for an action to be a grave sin, the person in question must “believe” what they are doing is a sin. Nancy Pelosi obviously doesn’t “believe” her position is a sin; therefore, by definition, it cannot be a sin for her, and therefore, she should not be excluded from communion. Let’s not talk about “rightly-formed consciences” here, because the question will always come up: according to who?
    //
    Secondly, aren’t all the pervert priests in the church continually guilty of grave sin, and yet they continue not only to receive communion but to consecrate the hosts and distribute communion. Let’s not be hypocrites!

    • Isaiah Bennett, OCDS says:

      To your first point: “rightly-formed conscience” and your question of “according to who[m]“–please see the Catechism of the Catholic Church, esp. numbers 1783, 1785, 1789, 1792. That should help you know the Church’s definitive teaching.
      To your second point: “pervert priests”–I am not aware of any such men who have stood in the pulpit, written in their church bulletins, or published in any way either their own sins of abuse or, in fact, advocated that others partake in the same. If it were that easy, we could have excluded them from all the sacraments (except worthy Penance) long before they were discovered. BTW, according to how I read your remarks, these sinful, criminal priests could have just as well justified their actions (both the abuse and their participation in the sacraments) by their inviolable right to conscience.

      • Recovering Catholic says:

        No, the pervert criminal priests could NOT have justified their actions by their conscience, because their consciences would never be telling them that molesting minors was o.k., but knowing their consciences were telling them that what they were doing was evil, they did it anyway.

      • Recovering Catholic says:

        It’s interesting to note that in those referenced Catechism sections, it says that one cannot do an evil to reach a good end. This makes one look at what Jesus himself did while on earth in knowingly allowing Himself to be murdered (like a suicide, since He knew He would be murdered if he kept on with his rhetoric) in order that “good” would come to the people after his resurrection.

  33. Fr. Mark, OSB says:

    So many many references to Canon Law 915. Didn’t Jesus say that the law was made for man, not man for the law, or are we becoming content to be Pharisees to people who need us? I pray for the fresh air that Pope Francis brings!

    • Isaiah Bennett, OCDS says:

      Jesus spoke of millstones and scandal, He admonished sinners, He excoriated the Pharisees for claiming they were good religious folk while acting the contrary. That’s the meaning of hypocrisy–a sin which He abhorred. Doesn’t sound too far off from the sincere believers who love Him, His Church, and those for whom He died. And such love must be shown in many ways, including speaking the truth.
      Also–what does it mean to say that “the law was made for man, not man for the law”? I can’t locate that passage in any NT I have consulted. Even so, what does “the law was made for man” actually mean? What law? For what man/woman? In what circumstances? When?

    • Catholic Lady says:

      Actually I think the quote may be: the sabbath is made for man not man for the sabbath. From our Lord Jesus to the religious leaders of His day who were critical of the healing of the sick on their holy day.

    • Paul Raul says:

      Jesus gave the Key to Heaven to Peter. He also said, you Peter will build My Church. Cannon Law is the law of the Church. You will have to complain to Jesus Himself if you do not like the Laws of His Church.

      • Concerned says:

        but it’s only the laws you agree with Paul – right? If it does not have anything to do with your narrow minded, self-righteous, “let me make myself look better than nothers” you could care less.

  34. codephined says:

    Archbishop Donald Wuerl, the Bishops who do not refuse Holy Communion to public grave sinners are contributing to their sin and in effect giving their position a stamp of approval.

    “The floor of hell is covered with the skulls of bishops” – attributed to St. Athanasius

    Thank God for Card. Burke.

    • Isaiah Bennett, OCDS says:

      Agreed, codephined. In addition, the ordained ministers of the Church are the first line of defense against the sacrilegious abuse of Our Lord’s Sacred Body and Blood. As for this being “politics”: what does that mean? One political party tends to legislate more brazenly against the divine law. The other party often departs from His law, as well, but not as egregiously; and some issues concern things about which the Church has no defined, infallible doctrine and, therefore, are open to reasoned debate. Abortion, gay “marriage,” unnatural birth control, and female “priests” are clear, defined, and non-negotiable doctrine. To pretend otherwise, especially while holding positions of influence and claiming to be Catholics in good standing, is just begging to be measured for a millstone.

      • Concerned says:

        and you Isaiah Bennett are a glorious illustration of the narrow minded people that POpe Francis has spoken against. Care of the sick, the homeless, the alienated, the hungry, and the imprisoned are just as much part of non-negotiable doctrine – it is Divine law as given by Jesus. Perhaps you had better pay careful attention to the Gospel for this weekend of the Rich man and Lazarus. But to so many of you taking care of the poor is only something you might want to consider, it’s not a necessary thing and so those who vote to make sure that the poor are not getting assistance are quite holy in your estimation. Hypocrites.

        • codephined says:

          What does the poor have to do with refusing Holy Communion, which is the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of our Lord, to public grave sinners? Pelosi proclaimed that it was her “catholic faith” that leads her to support abortion. How in the world can you defend that?
          Are you concerned about souls or are you only concerned about social justice?

          • Concerned says:

            is it not a grave sin to deny assistance to the poor? Have you rewritten the message of Jesus? My what great power you have. Where is your outcry about those who have taken assistance away from the poor? Why are you not advocating that they not receive COmmunion? Because you comingle God and politics creating your own version and therefore creating your own god – a pagan god who is whipped out to support your views. Hypocrites. The Eucharist is not your toy, it is not your property – it belongs to Jesus who offered it as pure gift – no strings attached. You have taken something holy and sacred and turned it into something other than what was intended.

            • codephined says:

              It was you who started talking about the poor out of no where. The subject is refusing Holy Communion to grave, public sinners.

              One of the sins that cry out to heaven for vengeance is the oppression of the poor. By the way, homosexual lifestyle is another.

              The Eucharist has always been refused from public sinners who have refused to confess their sins publicly. Eating the Body of Christ in mortal sin is eating and drinking your own damnation. This is why the Church is supposed to refuse Holy Communion from people like Pelosi, Biden, Clinton, etc

              • Concerned says:

                Narrow minded fools who refuse to see how they weaken the church. You still didn’t answer the question if public sinners are to be denied Communion, as you propose, should all those in the House who are Catholics and voted to cut aide to the poor be denied Communion since as the Gospel passage for this weekend makes very clear is a sin of great magnitude? Or are conservatives exempt from having to answer for their sins?

                • Tony says:

                  Paul Ryan should be denied the Eucharist too for his disservice to the poor.
                  If you go in for witholding communion.

                • Paul Raul says:

                  What is the definition of poor. Has the definition of ‘Poor’ been redefined by the Democrats like the re-definition of marriage? In America there are Food Stamps, Public Assistance, all kinds of Charities, Friends, Family to help feed one another. If anyone is going hungery in the United State of America,that would be scandalous, however, there are more innocent human human-beings being killed in America than go hungery.

                  • Concerned says:

                    and here Paul Raul does the great act of justifying his actions and lack of action. You sound like Scrooge – “are there no work camps, have the debtors prisons been closed…?” Why don’t you try Luke 16:19-31. Are you denying that there are poor, hungry and homoeless in the United States? Stop checking yourself for colon polyps and look. There are children starving in our own country. There are countless people starving in the world. But as long as someone has their baby – your view is goodbye and good luck. Such a hypocrite. Such self-righteousprattle. But feeding the hungry is not part of your political view so you dismiss those teachings of Jesus. Is the authority of Jesus’ own words not good enough for you? Do you think Canon law trumps the message of Jesus? In the end we will see whos souls are saved. But if I were you I’d have to expect that your eternal neighbor may be Dives.

                • Paul Raul says:

                  By who’s authortity are you speaking?

    • Catholic Lady says:

      I did not suport abortion as a Protestant – I do not suport abortion as a Catholic. However I do suport a woman’s God given freedom to make her own choice – she can chose to be a believer or she can chose not too. She can even chose to sin. She, knowing the state of her own soul better than I or anyone else may chose to ignore all warnings of the Church and partake of Holy Communion with out being reconcilled to God; in otherwords she may chose to go to hell. That is the freedom of choice that God has given to each and everyone of us.

  35. Tony says:

    Burke is a narrow minded pompous ass who is not in line with the thinking of Pope Francis.

    • Byzcat says:

      If you don’t agree with Cardinal Burke, fine, but why do you resort to name calling? Show where you disagree and support your argument, or, in Christian charity, keep you comments to yourself.

    • Zeebus says:

      Tony, he’s actually trying to save Pelosi’s soul. St. Paul said it first – he who receives the holy body and blood of Christ unworthily, receives God’s judgment, not His blessing.

    • Ann (WOC) says:

      Agree Tony.

  36. Concerned says:

    Remember this is an article that was done in July, before Pope Francis gave his recently published interview where he talk about the narrow mindedness of so many. I am sure that Burke would not be so blatant at this moment (after all he is a hypocrite). But the whole “let’s not give Communion to someone” mentality is a disgrace to the Sacrament. All these people wanting to use that approach are just superficial people trying to make themselves feel better by saying someone is worse than them. Save the sanctimonious rhetoric that you “just want to save someone’s soul” because it is nonsense. Burke and the rest of the “holier than thou” club would never want their own reasoning to apply to themselves when it comes to other matters. These same people who are so self-righteous think nothing of failing to help the poor. Where is the outcry of “saving souls” when it comes to cutting aide to the poor? Let’s face it, if everyone who did not following ALL of the teachings of the CHurch were to be denied Communion, there would not be one person who could be offered the gift given by Jesus. Those who want to use the Eucharist as a negotiation weapon or punishment do not have one clue about the real meaning of this gift. You are the brood of vipors that Jesus speaks about. And save the prattle about degrees of sin – it’s just another way of making yourself feel better. You are such hypocrites that you can’t even admit that you do this to make yourself look better. The Church, as Pope Francis has begun to reestablish, is charged with teaching, not enforcing. The Church’s responsibility is to invite, not bully. Burke and the rest of his ilk demonstrate that they don’t have a clue about what Eucharist is. Finger point all you want. Justify your own actions all you want. Compare yourself to others in some juvenile, hypocritical manner all you want. It changes nothing about yourself. It just reveals your true nature – someone who is so afraid to look at yourself honestly that you have to use others to puff yourself up. God is not going to ask any of us what we did in comparrison to someone else, God is going to ask what each one of us as individuals did. Burke will never be able to justify his extravagances by saying he wasn’t as bad as someone else – and none of the self-righteous will get away with it either. The Eucharist is not ours to control – it is Jesus’ lasting gift – accept it as such and maybe you will be able to be hinest with yourself.

  37. John says:

    Withholding the Eucharist is not being used as a weapon. It is withheld to help the sinner avoid the sin of blaspheny by receiving unworthly.

    • Concerned says:

      Then why are you receiving the Eucharist? or are you not a sinner?

      • codephined says:

        That is why we go to confession before receiving the Body of Christ.

        You know, that little box that so many Novus Ordo parishes forgot about?

        • Fr. Mark, OSB says:

          I don’t need a “little box” for the sacrament of Penance. I face my confessor and we discuss things that I may improve.

          • codephined says:

            I am referring to confession before Mass… which you hardly see anymore. Most people don’t go to confession before approaching the Blessed Sacrament; probably because it isn’t offered before Mass in most parishes.

            • Concerned says:

              well then that means that you self-righteous people are not in a state of sanctifying grace either and therefore by your own standards, yours not God”s, you should not be receiving COmmunion.

              • codephined says:

                How do you come to that conclusion? I’m not self-righteous at all. I go to confession twice a week. I attend daily Mass, except for 2 days out of the week (Mon and Thurs).

                I just don’t support your liberal, pansy social justice novelties.

                • codephined says:

                  Let me be even more clear: I go to confession twice a week because I NEED IT. I’m a sinner and I ain’t no saint.

                  • Catholic Lady says:

                    I firmly resolve with the help of Your grace, to confess my sins, to do penance, TO AVOID THE PROXIMATE OCCASION OF SIN AND NEVER TO SIN ANYMORE.

                  • StatVeritas7 says:

                    I do too and I agree with you I’m a sinner and far from being a saint.
                    But I also find that the more I attend Confession the more peaceful I feel and that’s is how I recognize the Grace God pours out through these HEALING SACRAMENT.
                    I just wished more Catholics would realized that, and get back into the habit of attendingConfession regularly, at least once a month.

                • Concerned says:

                  So Jesus’ message about the rich man and Lazarus in your view is a “liberal, pansy social justice novelty?” Isn’t that blasphemy?

                • Catholic Lady says:

                  I wonder why you need to go to confession twice a week – have you not learned from your past mistakes? Did you not avoid the proximate occasion of sin and at least tried with the help of God’s grace to never commit the same sin again. Once has always been enouth for most of us…

                  • Concerned says:

                    no Catholic Lady, he is one of those people who treat it like magic. He doesn’t understand the need to keep his promise not to do the same thing again. But he can say he “goes” to Confession twice a week like someone goes shopping twice a week. It doesn’t mean anything to anyone but he gets to use it to say he is better than anyone else.

                  • James says:

                    Blessed Pope John PaulII went to confession every day. The more you go the more you realize you need to go.

                    • Concerned says:

                      oh holier than thou James has spoken. Thank you Lord that I am not a sinner like the rest of these people and that I go to Confession twice a week and I support denying the Eucharist to your children. The prayer of James the Publican

                  • StatVeritas7 says:

                    Catholic lady you are an idiot.

                    • Concerned says:

                      but you SatVeritas are a self-righteous hypocrite. So thankfully Jesus did not come to call you.

                    • Catholic Lady says:

                      Mathew 5:22 But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother shall be liable to the council, and whoever says, “YOU FOOL!” shall be liable to the hell of fire.

    • Fr. Mark, OSB says:

      None of us is worthy of receiving the Eucharist. We are also not here to judge another’s sins. If that were the case, the arrogance of Burke and his ilk would prevent any of them from ascending to the altar.

      • Paul K. Geers says:

        Dear OSB, if Canon Law is the law of the church,and this states the law, why would you have a problem not following the church law, like civil law. That has been the problem with the church the last 45 years, anything go’s. No wonder the OSB and many orders do not have any vocations. Follow the law of the church, and at lease one cardinal is doing that, LOVE is just not the answer, but confession is the best for our Soul before reseption of our Lord in this greatest sacrament which is the center of our church.
        I say follow the law of the church, or get out.

        • Recovering Catholic says:

          Dear Paul,
          At the Last Supper, Jesus said to everyone present, “Take and eat.” Jesus did not add a caveat, “but only if you are in a state of grace, have just gone to confession and are as pure as snow.”

          • Aunt Raven says:

            Actually, at the first Eucharist, Jesus did warn about “being being clean” when he washed the disciples’ feet, and he indicated that not all of them (Judas) were “clean”.

      • Byzcat says:

        Father, one of the spiritual works of mercy is to admonish the sinner. It is not up to you to judge the interior disposition of a person, that is their motivations and conscience, but a bishop (and, for that matter, everyone) has the right and authority to judge the public action of a particular person regarding the moral value of those actions, particularly when they cause public scandal as Congresswoman Pelosi is doing. To remain silent, as Archbishop Weurl does, is to be complicit in her sin. Don’t you think the prelates who tolerate this sort of behavior will need to account for their lack of concern for the souls of those faithful who have strayed from the truth? Of course none of us is worthy to receive the Eucharist, but that does not dispense us from our duty to try to get our brothers and sisters who are in sin to repent. Please rethink your position. Also, by labeling Cardinal Burke arrogant, don’t you think you are judging his interior dispositions, something that only God can do?

        • Concerned says:

          Byzcat, you show your own duplicity. Burke publicly demonstrates his arrogance in the ludicrous vestments and paraphenalia he adorns himself with. Where is the outcry for those who don’t care of the poor, homeless and hungry? Should not those who voted to reduce aide to the poor be publicly admonished? Face it, this is politics not faith. So many of you have tried to merge the two, but all you have done is created a false god.

    • Recovering Catholic says:

      At the Last Supper, I recall Jesus’ saying to everyone present, “Take and eat.” Nowhere in the New Testament does it add a caveat, “but only if you are in a state of grace, have just gone to confession and are as pure as snow.”

      • Aunt Raven says:

        At the first Eucharist, Jesus advocated “being clean” when he washed the disciples’ feet; and he indicated (disapprovingly) that not all of them were “clean” [=Judas].

  38. Mary Anne says:

    I believe Cardinal Burke IS concerned about her soul and that’s why he’s saying what he’s saying! Imagine the pain and horror this soul will endure if she knows what she is doing by receiving our Lord in grave sin and continues out of pride, and no one tries to help her NOW. Think of her AFTER this earthly life…not during.

    • Concerned says:

      and here I thought the Eucharist was for sinners – the ones Jesus came to call, not the self-righteous.

      • Byzcat says:

        The Eucharist is for sinners who are in a state of sanctifying grace, not for those who are not. It is not self righteous to try to call someone back from a sinful life. Abortion is an objective moral evil. Congresswoman Pelosi publicly supports it. Excommunication is a penalty the Church imposes to try to bring a soul back to Christ by forcing them to reevaluate their relationship to Christ and the Church. Therefore the Bishops, who are charged with the care of souls, have an obligation to use every legitimate means to save the soul of Mrs. Pelosi, including imposing, if necessary, the penalty of excommunication.

        • Concerned says:

          allowing people to die of hunger, no medical care are also objective moral evils. So should those politicians guilty of reducing aid be singled out, as you are calling for when someone votes to allow people to choose for themselves regardless of the fact that they themselves would never have an abortion, and be denied the Eucharist or not?

          • Paul Raul says:

            It appears that if a woman took her new born and put him/her onto a railroad track, you would not save that baby because it was her “choice” to have that train cut-up the baby to pieces.

            • Catholic Lady says:

              Now you are being foolish, Paul.

              • pat johnson says:

                No, YOU are being foolish, Catholic Lady. You can either be a Catholic or be Politically Correct, but a woman cannot serve two Masters. Choose the right Master or stop calling yourself a Catholic!

            • Concerned says:

              see, the exclusionist can only resort to the ludicrous to try to prove their point – Paul Raul and the exclusionists (wow sounds like the name of a band that might be playing in hell) can only resort to fear, lies, half-truths, deceit and rumors to try and control people. So for all the exclusionists – get your tickets early to see Paul Raul and the Exclusionists evry Friday night in hell for all eternity.

      • eurram says:

        Keep in mind that at the last supper everyone (and all except Christ were sinners) received the Eucharist but only one was not worthy and by receiving the devil entered into him. Judas drank condemnation upon himself as do all who receive in the state of mortal sin. Catholicism 101 should have taught you that.
        Plus the Church instituted by Christ has been given the mandate to teach all nations. And that is what Cardinal Burke is doing. Cardinal Wuerl is shirking his responsibility.
        And “Concerned” your judgmental attitude and hurling of insults at others who don’t agree with you is appalling. Remember as you point one finger at others three more are pointing your way.
        We are all sinners and not worthy to receive, but Jesus gave us this sacrament to heal our souls. We are all sinners but we are not all in mortal sin. So there is a big difference between one who receives in the state of mortal sin and the one who receives in the state of sanctifying grace. Sanctifying grace, that permanent disposition that perfects the soul enabling it to live with God and act by his love. A person in mortal sin does not live with God and the Holy Spirit no longer resides in that persons soul. St Paul is clear about receiving in the state of mortal sin, that by doing so we are bringing condemnation upon ourselves something that does not happen when the ordinary sinner in the state of sanctifying grace receives. In the latter case it is a healing for the soul in the first case it is a condemnation.

        • Concerned says:

          eurram – that is why a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. You never got past Catholicism 101. If you went on you may have learned critical thinking rather than the regurgitation of textbook statements.

          • Paul Raul says:

            It appears that you never even understood Catholicism 101. Your “critical thinking” is coming from a maleformed conscience. It Sounds like you may have graduated from Georgetown University.

            • Concerned says:

              once again you try to mix religion with your own political views as evidenced by your referencing those Unniversities that have been labeled “liberal” by the conservatists. But Paul Raul you should try some critical thinking – it may give you a headache at first, obviously you have not used it before, but once you try it, you may see how narrow-minded and exclusionary you have been.

      • tanya says:

        The Eucharist is not for sinners. Read about what St. Paul says about knowing you are a sinner and approaching the table. Confession is for sinners and Jesus states clearly after to sin no more. Pelosi is a public sinner and scandalizing the Church with her obstinacy with regard to her stance on abortion rights etc. Since she is a public sinner, she has be called out. She needs to be formally excommunicated. She needs to state that she is wrong, she needs a conversion, big time.

    • Recovering Catholic says:

      It seems more likely to me that Cardinal Burke is only concerned with his lack of power to “control” her!

  39. Wolfman says:

    29 Jesus answered, “The first is, `Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one; 30 and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ 31 The second is this, `You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.” (Mark (RSV) 12) What part of “You shall love your neighbor as yourself” covers voting to cut $40B from the Food Stamp program thus removing 3.8 million people from the program? Maybe every Catholic member of the House who voted for the cuts should be denied Holy Communion and excommunicated.

    • JMJ says:

      Two wrongs do not make either right, denying life as well as denying help to the needy are two evils that will be treated harshly by The Lord of Lords.

    • Concerned says:

      Amen Wolfman, but the self-righteous would never think that since it would include them.

    • Recovering Catholic says:

      Maybe it IS loving your neighbor when certain people who are perfectly able to get off their duff and take some responsibility for the sorry lives are dumped off the food stamp program.

    • Paul Raul says:

      Who is your neighbor? There is no comparison.(the baby in the womb of a mother is your neighbor). You are comparing a cut in Food Stamps to killing a baby in the womb of a mother?
      Killing is final! Killing of a helpless innocent human-being is Intrinsically Evil.(can’t get any worse than that; except to promote and vote for this intrinsically evil act). To cut Food Stamps from a Government Program is not Intrinsically evil. It is not even sinful because the government is burdening, with high taxes, the families that need the money for their own food. There are Charities and Food Banks, Soup Kitchens. Besides, the Food Program is being abused by the fat a$$e$ ,men sitting around (or in bed with a woman), getting her pregnant so she can get an abortion, paid for by tax dollars.. Oh what a web can the Americans weave?. If the Democrates didn’t include Abortion on demand (full-term) in the Obamacare and forcing every American to pay for the Gosnell’s of America,the late-term Abortionists, under the guise of a “Women’s Reproductive Healthcare”, then the government could afford more for the Food Stamps.

      • Concerned says:

        So Paul Raul you completely reject Luke 16:19-31? The words of Jesus have no weight with you? Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I rest my case!

  40. ginny says:

    Mortal sin is Mortal sin. If I cannot receive Holy Communion with Mortal Sin on my soul, Pelosi should not either….no argument here..just the facts

    • Recovering Catholic says:

      Jesus said at the Last Supper to all who were present, “Take and Eat ….” He never added a caveat, “but only if you are in a state of grace, have gone to confession and are as white as snow.”

      • SteveL says:

        But St Paul said, “Those who eat and drink the body of the Lord unworthily, eat and drink condemnation upon themselves”. Nothing unambiguous there. This is serious stuff. Cardinal Burke is right. Palosi is putting her immortal soul in jeopardy by continuing her pride in her beliefs rather then what her faith tells her. As Jesus said to His apostles “He who hears you hears me” Palosi are you listening?

  41. henry says:

    Remember, Jesus dined with Judas. If he could eat with his betrayer …. who then are anyone of us to judge?

  42. Harry Flynn says:

    The “Communion as weapon” argument is ridiculous.

    The fact is, NO ONE is allowed to receive Holy Communion in mortal sin. THAT is the point of Canon 915.

    Preach it Cardinal Burke, PREACH IT!!

    • Recovering Catholic says:

      When Jesus gave communion to all those present at the Last Supper, Canon 915 didn’t exist. I think I’ll go along with Jesus’ thinking, thank you!

      • Paul Raul says:

        Then you better listen to the Bride of Christ. The One and only Catholic Apostolic Church. He gave Peter the Key to Heaven. Reality Check!

  43. Paul says:

    “1 Cor 11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord.” If Wurel was concerned about their souls he would follow Canon 915. In their unrepentant sinfulness they shouldn’t be receiving communion, unless they don’t believe it’s the body & blood of Christ.

    • Catholic Lady says:

      Paul; he that eateth and drinketh without discerning the body of the Lord is eating and drinking unworthily. It is in not discerning the body of Christ; where the error lies, thus the warning.

  44. SJM says:

    Apparently not everyone is getting the message. We are all sinners. We are all broken. None of us are worthy of Eucharist. Bishop Wuerl is absolutely right: Communion should never be used as a weapon. Instead of judging Pelosi and pushing her away, perhaps we ought to welcome her, love her and pray for her. Just a thought.

    • Paul says:

      Wuerl needs to follow canon law. Canon 915 is very clear. Wuerl shouldn’t pick and choose which laws he will and won’t enforce. This attitude makes him no better than the democrat heretics we’re talking about.

    • john says:

      Never thought I’d agree with Don Wuerl on an issue.
      I don’t think there is anything as anti-catholic as using the Eucharist as a weapon.
      As an old cleric reminded me, the Solemn Requiem will ultimately reform the Church. In the meantime, the acceptance of early retirements will also help return the Catholic religion to the Christian Faith.

    • John D says:

      To SJM: Apparently YOU’RE not getting the message! It’s all about two things, SJM; Saving Pelosi’s soul an ceasing the unrelenting scandal (confusion of the faithful about what is right and wrong ) that surrounds the entire abortion situation. You obviously don’t understand St. Paul and/or know and care nothing about canon law, whose articles have been formed over 2000 years! If you are not a protestant you are merely another unfortunate victim of 50 years of a lack of catechesis in the catholic Church…Another “fruit” of Vatican II. Wake up and save your own soul. BTW card Wuerl is no papragon of virtue…

    • eurram says:

      SJM praying for Pelosi is a good thing but until she starts living by the rules of the Church communion should be refused her. And the Church has every right to do so and every right to determine what is lawful and what is not. Why? Because that mandate was given to her by Christ himself when He said to the apostles “Go into the world and teach all nations. Whatsoever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven and whatsoever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven”. And so Cannon Law is a legitimate law and Cardinal Burke is following it Wuerl is not.

  45. tcdelfin says:

    Then why now and never before? Seems the church has been busy playing politics..has lost the battle..and now perhaps sees this route as its only recourse? They urged “the faithful” to support HHS..hoping for an exemption for themselves (didnt happen).. then urged “the faithful” (ponds) to contact their congressmen and senators..to voice their now opposition to HHS..( were they for abortion before they were against it? given a long list of Catholic hospitals and clinics which performed these? while the Bishops turned their heads to the sea of “faithful” calls and letters alerting them to this?) To which direction does the spinning compas of church hypocrisy turn now? And what will “the faithful” be urged to do (or believe) next?

    • John D says:

      TC delvin, your comment is pure B.S.!!

    • Larry Giroux says:

      TC you are obviously not familiar with the concept of patience, and seeking solutions that do not create big headlines. I too am impatient, which is why God made me a pipefitter, and not part of the Magisterium. You are opining way beyond your ability to understand, which explains the name calling.

  46. Dianne Tomeo says:

    I agree with Cardinal Burke. I wrote to Archbishop Wuerl years back about it, and he expressed his opinion that it was her home bishop that should advise her. Tony, shame on you for calling someone a nut job, didn’t your mother teach you better manners? And also Wuerl is an Archbishop not a Cardinal. May God bless our Pope Francis, His Holiness Benedict XVI, Cardinal Burke, Archbishop Wuerl and all our Cardinals, Bishops and Priests.

  47. william richter says:

    Excommunication is the best policy for her,Kerry,and Coumo.

    • John D says:

      William Richter, you are absolutely correct!! Excommunications are long overdue!

      • Concerned says:

        William richter and john d you are both guilty of blasphemy by associating the sacred Eucharist with your political views, of reducing Jesus to politics. I hope you refrain from the Eucharist so that your souls can be saved.

        • Paul Raul says:

          Life is not a political view. A politician that promotes and votes over and over again for expanding abortion ‘Rights’ and forcing every man, woman, and child to pay for the killing of their neighbor, through the guise of an Affordable Healthcare Act a.k.a. Obamacare, should not be given Holy Communion when he/she prsents themselves; because it is sacrilegious and is scandalous.

          • Concerned says:

            you only care about supporting your political view. If it is not within your political belief, then it is not in your religious belief. You have demonstrated this in a post prior to this by your flat out rejection of Luke 16:19-31. You reduce God to proof of your political views. You are a hypocrite.

  48. Tony says:

    Burke s a nut job, he was kicked upstairs to Rome because of his extremely outspoken embarrassing remarks and view points.
    Cardinal Wurel is correct, Communion should not be used as a weapon. Burke is the guy who likes to be seen in the long scarlet cape.

    • Larry Giroux says:

      Yeah, Tony “Burke’s a nut job.” That is why they put him in charge of the SUPREME Tribunal. (I feel I need to explain that this is sarcasm.)

      • Concerned says:

        Let’s see, Cardinal Burke, a noun meaning someone who loves to dress up in furs, brocades, gold and anything glitzy while condeming people to hell. Yup, that’s a nut job.

        • Paul Raul says:

          Cardinal Burke is sitting in the Kingdom of God on Earth. That is why he can wear furs, brocades, gold and anything glitzy. Sound like you are ‘Envious’
          Envy is one of the big Seven Sins.

          • Catholic Lady says:

            And, Jesus was the King of Kings, Lord of Heaven and Earth, Almighty God, and of coarse He wore fur, brocades, lots of glitter and much gold. RIGHT?

            • Catholic Lady says:

              And, our beloved Pope Francis wears as much glitter, brocade and fur as the Cardinal. RIGHT?

            • Paul Raul says:

              Jesus Christ is sitting at the Right hand of the Father, He is in Heaven. He is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. The Kings always have a lot of Gold and beauty around them. There are no abortions on demand nor are there same-sex pseudo marriages in Heaven.

              • Concerned says:

                Paul Raul has now blasphemed the message of Jesus Christ and the example he gave. Simplicity. You have mixed Jesus with material things. What are you an evangelical? Gold, precious stones, fine materials are signs of God? You have shown your true colors. You must be working for Satan. Trying to ruin the Catholic church. You should be denied Communion until you make a public confession – renouncing your errors, do penance and return to union with God.

      • Recovering Catholic says:

        Have you ever noticed that there are numerous “nut jobs” that are put in charge of things — such as running countries.

        • Paul Raul says:

          Like Pelosi,Reid, Sebelious, and Obama?

          • Ann (WOC) says:

            No like Burke.

            • Paul Raul says:

              Your misstaken because Cardinal Burke works for God.
              Who do you work for? Planned Parent”Hood’ along with Pelosi, Reid, Sebelious and Obama.
              The Devil Himself?

              • Concerned says:

                Once again you show how you use God to support your political views. Seems very much like your eternal soul is in jeopardy.

                • Ann (WOC) says:

                  As for warnings in Scripture: the only people Jesus ever “warned” were the greedy wealthy who disregarded the needs of the poor (eye of the needle, etc.) and the self-righteous Pharisees (whited sepulchers, etc.)who completely misunderstood his ministry. No, I do not think Jesus was divisive; Jesus was challenging and a “troublemaker” to the establishment who set themselves up in judgment of others — especially sinners, the poor and the outcast. If he divided anyone, it was the self-righteous from those they attacked. The only legitimate authority/ethics is one that arises from love; your arid canon law does nothing but separate one from his/her neighbor and ultimately from God. Instead of acting with a “grateful” and “transformed” heart, these legalistic and arid canonical carryings on do nothing but alienate people and destroy the church.

    • Tom says:

      I disagree Tony. Cardinal Burke just happens to be an excellent canon lawyer and he is doing his job wonderfully I might add. As for Cardinal Wuehl, I thing His Eminence has been in Washington to long. By granting Ms. Pelosi an exemption to receive Holy Communion while at the same time she is excommunicated from the Church sends the faithful in the pews a very bad message. Can the faithful in the pews now intentionally disregard the decalogue, get an exemption from the bishop in their diocese and then receive Holy Communion? If you live in the Archdiocese of Washington, D.C. it appears you can. Very bad precedent and very poor pastoral treatment of this scandal on Cardinal Wuerl’s part.

 
 

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