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Pope Francis’ killer pace wearing out his aides

 

174252803(AP) The 76-year-old Argentine Jesuit, who lost most of one lung following an infection in his youth, has been acting like a man half his age during his first international trip as pope, adding in events at the last minute to his already full schedule and gamely going with the flow after heavy rains forced major changes in the World Youth Day agenda.

His spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, noted Thursday that such vigorous activity has been the norm at the Vatican ever since Francis came to town, saying the Vatican’s usually staid bureaucrats were getting “stressed out” by his pace – and that that was a good thing.

But he quipped: “I’m happy we’re half-way through because if it were any longer I’d be destroyed.”

Francis added two unscheduled events Thursday to an already full day: a morning Mass with some 300 seminarians from the region, and then a meeting at Rio’s cathedral with some 30,000 Argentine pilgrims.

Asked when Francis would actually return to his home country, Lombardi revealed that there were no plans for a trip to Argentina in 2014 as had been widely expected.

Rather, he said, the pope planned to visit another continent given he had already been to Brazil in 2013 and, as he announced somewhat unexpectedly on Wednesday, would be returning in 2017 to mark the 300th anniversary of the discovery of the statue of the Virgin of Aparecida, Brazil’s patron saint.

Lombardi didn’t say which continent might get a papal visit in 2014, but mentioned Africa, Asia or the Holy Land as possibilities.

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AP/Inland Valley Bulletin

 
 
 
 

48 Comments

  1. Andrew says:

    How can you tell Pope Benedict is a holy man? From all the venomous hatred posted against him by the intolerant, progressives on this board. People with diabolical intentions always go after those who are filled with the Holy Spirit.

    • Tony says:

      Benedict may have been a very holy man but he was a disaster as a Pope. He led by moving backwards,.even now he loves in luxurious splendor as an ex pope, while Francis lives a very humble, modest life in the footsteps of St Francis following the Poor a heist.

      • Tony says:

        Christ

      • leatherhead says:

        nobody has seen inside Pope Benedict’s new home you have no idea who he now lives. You just pour out your vile hatred at any chance with nothing to back up your lies

        • Tony says:

          There have been pictures published of the humble rooms of Pope Francis. He preaches simplicity and he walks the talk.

          • Leatherhead says:

            Tony you said Benedict lives in splendour you don’t know that, you were just being spiteful as normal. We know Francis does already.

            • Tony says:

              What a great difference between the introverted, conservative, backward thinking Ex Benedict and the extroverted, outgoing progressive Pope Francis.
              Ev Benedict spoke of a smaller Church and Francis talks about bringing the Gospel to the streets and people of the world.
              Viva Papa Frncisco.

    • Catholic Lady says:

      There is no doubt that Pope Benedict was indeed a Holy man. Pope Benedict was from Europe, the old world – an old world Pope. An intelligent person and gifted writer, who loved God, and modlled great respect for the Church and all it’s beauty. Pope Frances, came from the new world, South America- he is a new world Pope bringing to the Vatican a little of the new world. While having a deep respect for Pope Benedict, Frances has choosen another way. Having choosen the name Frances, which brings to mind a humble Saint, a servant our Pope has gone forth much like the early apostles to serve others, model gospel truth and make disciples. God in His wisdom has given us two very different men to lead our Church – who can say that they know the mind of God, who’s plan is for our ultimate good.

    • Concerned says:

      andy – you claim to be filled with the Holy Spirit or to be able to recognize someone filled with the Holy Spirit??????? You? Someone who is so closed to the Holy Spirit because of being so narrow-minded? You? Someone who believes that anyone who thinks differently from you should be excluded from the church? You??????? Who would never be open to any change????????? The Holy Spirit brings growth. The Holy Spirit brings courage to move forward. The Holy Spirit brings newness of life. The Holy Spirit revitalizes. You are so much the opposite of that. You want stagnation. You fear change. You fear differences. You despise anything that upsets your little,puny, insignifcant way of life. The Holy Spirit would love to fill you but you are closed to it all. Nor would you ever recognize those filled with the Spirit – because you would hate everything about that person. Therefore, since you think so highly of Benedict and lift him up as such an example – one can only read the evidence that says Benedict was not open to the Holy Spirit either – if he was, you would hate him – as you do anyone who may be prompted by the Holy Spirit to bring about change. Jesus was filled with the Spirit – he wanted to move people forward. The Pharisees and Scribes hated him for that because he upset their little, puny, insignificant lives. Gee, you do a wonderful job as a Pharisee or Scribe.

      • Andrew says:

        Concerned, you’re a liar! I clearly stated in my post that Pope Benedict was filled with the Holy Spirit, not me.

        • Tony says:

          Andrew retread Concerneds post.
          He has very good advice for you.

          • Andrew says:

            I did. He/she started off by writing: “andy – you claim to be filled with the Holy Spirit…” So, there, he/she is a liar because I never once and never would be so arrogant as to say I’m filled with the Holy Spirit. As for the rest of his/her response, it’s the same old slop he/she posts all the time here. “You fear change” – check. “You want stagnation” – check. “You’re a pharisee” – check. Concerned is one of the most un-original posters on this site. He/she is a total blow hard and I don’t take such people seriously.

            • Concerned says:

              andy calls someone unoriginal? what a laugh. andy does not have one original thought – just a parrot for whatever politiccs he subscribes to. andy want a cracker? when you have no defense (which is most of the time) you resort to deflection. it simply angers you to have no defense and so your idiotic, “I don’t take such people seriously” is such a joke. so i guess by what you wrote, you are proud to be stagnant, fearful pharisee. well i guess you have worked very hard to achieve such success and earn those descriptions – the shame is that you really are proud of them.

      • Ann (WOC) says:

        Very insightful Concerned.

      • Catholic Lady says:

        Christians should be more ready to give a favourable interpretation to another’s statement than to condemn it. But if he cannot do so, let him ask how the other understands it. And if the latter understands it badly, let the former CORRECT HIM WITH LOVE.

  2. Florian says:

    Francis’ personal simplicity generates a lot of useful energy that keeps him going faster than a pink bunny. Speaking of which, isn’t it funnyfunny that the bishops and cardinals are not catching on?!

  3. leatherhead says:

    Your hatred is really something else. I pity your soul

  4. Tony says:

    People may be having difficulty keeping up with Francis moving out and forward after eight years of Ex Benedict who only moved backwards.

    • Tony says:

      I love Pope Francis, “the social justice Pope.”

    • Recovering Catholic says:

      Tony, the church actually began reversing “backwards” way back in 1978.

      • Tony says:

        Yes with JPiI. But Ex Benedict brought it into full time reversal particularly with his “reform of the reform”. And his allowing the Latin mass at the whim of a conservative priest of the Lain Rite.m

        • Andrew says:

          If you don’t like the Latin Mass then don’t attend one. Pope Benedict did nothing to restrict the Novus Ordo and Pope Francis isn’t doing anything to restrict the Tridentine. Only someone with diabolical intentions would express such hostility toward the Tridentine Mass.

          • Tony says:

            The TLM conservatives are pushing the mass making all kinds of claims against the Mass of Pope Psul VI..in some areas the conservative priests say the extraordinary mass as though it were the ordinary rite.

            • Tony says:

              They impose their extraordinary rite on congregations, because it sets them apart and very important in their own eyes.
              Lay people particularly women have no role in the Latin Mass.the Latin Mass is filled with outdated theology and not really in tune with Vatican II.
              In an effort to bring some sort of unity to the church by bringing back those who followed Abp. Laferbrere ExBenedict divided the church even more than it was, by allowing indiscriminate use of the Latin mass.

          • Ann (WOC) says:

            The Tridentine Mass, like your thinking Andrew, is an old dinosaur interested in relegating the people of God to the sidelines and the priest with his back to the people. Yes, yes, looking to the East where Christ will return all dressed in lace, you say. We are called to live in the present, minister to the needy and celebrate the Eucharistic (Thanksgving) meal together so that Christ is present in our midst, not descending from the East. Francis, of all people, would not support this old, oppressive relic as he walks among the poor, turning his back on no one.

            • leatherhead says:

              Ann sorry to burst your bubble but Pope Francis has already has given the Traditional Latin Mass his support. Read what he said to the Italian Bishop who tried to stop the TLM in his diocese. He made it clear that the faithful had a right to it’s continued use. The dinosaurs in the Church are those stuck in the 1960′s – 70s and like the other dinosaurs who could not evolve with the times they will die out. The Church of 2013 is full of young people who are fed up with ‘has beens’ going on with their guitars, boring liturgy in ugly churches which you destroyed, banging on about Women Priests and the other rubbish you spurt out.

              • Andrew says:

                Thank you leather head. The TLM Mass is thriving in my diocese. Recently, two ordained (young) priests gave their first Mass in the Tridentine and people came from all over the diocese to see this. When I go to Mass, I have to get there early in order to get a seat up front. All the churches offering the TLM in my diocese are growing with young families and young men considering a vocation. By contrast, the churches that are receding are the ones that have comedy shows for homilies, atrocious pop music and people dressed like slobs. The declining attendees of such Masses are definitely the older crowd that was on fire during the late 1960s. Once such church near me recently had to cut their two Sunday Masses down to one. All of this is a purification of the Church and its well needed.

                • Tony says:

                  In my diocese there is only one Latin mass, which Is poorly attended and not celebrated during the summer.

                  • Tony says:

                    My own daughters and sons are active participants in the ordinary form of the pass as lectors, and ministers of the Eucharist.,, they and their friends are enriched by the sense of community during the liturgy.which overflows to a sense of service outside the church during the week.

                • Concerned says:

                  Leatherhead and andy live in such la-la lands. Pope Francis does not subscribe to the Tridentine Mass. He does not like it. He has not, and most likely will not stop it, but he has stated clearly that he is no fan – his belief is that people should understand what they are praying. He does not chant, and won’t – his own words. as for andy’s constant rantings about the popularity of the Mass in Latin in his own diocese, nonsense – if it were such a success there would be headlines about it. People coming for some misguided newly ordained priests first Mass is one thing, but the fact is, most will never go back. so what a Mass offered in Latin is crowded, the dinosaurs have to come from how far to be at a Mass they do not understand? If it were so popular there would have to be constant offering of the Mass – so keep fooling yourself that the use of the Latisn Mass is catching on like wildfire – but be aware – you are only fooling yourself – no one else buys it.

                  • Ann (WOC) says:

                    Well stated Tony and Concerned. The Tridentine Mass may raise some sentimental religious feeling in observers but it bears no resemblance to the meal Jesus celebrated with his disciples the night before his passion, and which the church views as the foundation of the Eucharist. Nor does it resemble the breaking of the bread the Risen Christ shared with the wayfarers on the way to Emmaus, in which Jesus was recognized in the breaking of the bread, nor the meals of the early church celebrated by the first Christians. Vatican II recognized that the Eucharistic prayer, the central prayer of the church, had to conform more closely to the Eucharist which Christ celebrated with his disciplesand thereby reformed this medieval rite to more closely reflect the meals of the Passover, Emmaus, and the Early Church which defined the Early Church as Christian. It is clearly not widely celebrated nor could it be; why should we celebrate Christ’s presence in our midst facing the back of a celebrant or in a language that is not spoken by anyone today.
                    The celebration of the Tridentine Mass is not unlike the excitement of kindergartners viewing the reconstruction of the large, old dinosaurs of prehistoric times and their juvenile excitement over a museum piece.

                    • Leatherhead says:

                      Ann First of all like all Protestants you never once mentioned the Mass is the Sacrifice of Calvary, a core truth of our faith. Interesting that there is no record of there being priestesses at the Last Supper or Emmaus?

                    • leatherhead says:

                      Ann / Tony. The people who attend the TLM do not feel excluded at the celebration, if they did, they would not be there! The rite they choose to attend does not have provision for lay readers or girl Alter Servers again if they did note agree with this they would not be there. As I have said time and time again, if you don’t like it then simple don’t go. Nobody is forced to attend a TLM, there are far more Nova Ordo Masses than TLM So whats your problem? Why cant you have the wisdom and charity of Pope Francis, who may not be particularly fond of the rite but accepts that other people do and as a true pastor and gives them the right to attend. Why is there nothing so illiberal as a liberal !

                  • Leatherhead says:

                    Concerned “By your fruits you shall know them” We shall where the Church is 10 years time and who was right

                    • Catholic Lady says:

                      The fruits of the Spirit are perfections that the Holy Spiri forms in us as the first fruilt of eternal glory. The tradition of the Church lists twelve of them: “charity, joy, peace, patience, KINDNESS, goodness, generosity, gentlenness, faithfulness, modesty, self-control, chastity.
                      And the gifts of the Holy Spirit are wisdom, understanding, counsel, foritude, knowledge, piety, and fear of the Lord.
                      Justice – consists in the firm and constat will to give God and neighbour their due. (love your neighbour and yourself)

                    • Ann (WOC) says:

                      The issue of the old Latin Tridentine Mass, Leatherhead, is not gender but inclusiveness. The old Tridentine Mass relegates to the sidelines by placement and language the people of God. Relative to gender — Jesus came as a man; by that God did not mean to exclude women from leadership roles — liturgical and otherwise –in the Christian community.

                    • Tony says:

                      It stikes me as strange that women had a very active role at the crucifiction:Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene.and women are not allowed to servemass or read scripture in the TLM.

                    • Ann (WOC) says:

                      If talking “sacrifice” that’s a great point Tony.

    • Concerned says:

      yes, it has been a long time since the Church has moved in a forward direction. The person formerly known as pope wanted to go backwards only to bring out the pretty, frilly, outrageous costumes and customs of old and for his own desire for power. Even before being pope that person was planting the seeds and doing all he could to go backwards as head of CDF. Francis has no time for the chanting and nonsense but instead is trying to bring back a sense of Jesus to the papacy.

 
 

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