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Pope Benedict’s bid to draw rebel Catholic traditionalists back to the Roman fold, a major effort that has divided Catholics and sometimes embarrassed him, seems to have hit a dead end with little apparent hope of a solution.
Two leaders of the Society of St Pius X (SSPX), which broke away over reforms of the 1962-1965 Second Vatican Council, have recently rejected his conditions for their rehabilitation after a series of contacts following his 2005 election as pope.
SSPX head Bishop Bernard Fellay, who Church officials expect will send a formal reply to Rome soon, has not yet indicated the group’s final position but it is not expected to be positive.
A formal or de facto SSPX rejection would be a setback for Benedict, whose decision to lift excommunications on its four bishops in 2009 backfired when it emerged one was a notorious Holocaust denier and the Vatican did not even know it.
“The SSPX has set conditions that are simply unacceptable to the pope,” Nicolas Seneze, a French expert on the Society, told Reuters. “Their discussions are now back at square one.”
The Swiss-based SSPX broke away from Rome in 1988 in protest against the 1960s reforms that replaced Latin with local languages at Mass, forged reconciliation with Jews and admitted other religions may also offer a path to salvation.
Benedict, who at the time was the Vatican’s top doctrinal official, failed to convince SSPX founder Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre not to ordain four bishops. Appointing them meant the SSPX could continue its work outside of Vatican control. [More]
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keep it up , all these masinations and BS, and now you know why your churches are empty, millions of us left after and long after your so-called vatican 2, seems what was believed yesterday vatican 2 made redundant, you won all you liberal revisionist prelates,enjoying your half empty cumbya churches good riddens to the lot of you.
The pope could learn a lot from the teachings of the enlightened Dr. David R. Hawkins — deceased Sept. 9, 2012. What a loss to us all. Use a search engine to find his obituary — a truly enlightened human being, who reached the highest levels of consciousness. May he rest in peace.
If any organization is puffed with self-righteous, narrow-minded pride, it has been and still is (unfortunately) the papacy and the curia.
The Church had a major schism before, with the Orthodox. It took 1000 years for both sides to admit wrong and lift all excommunications against each other. With the SSPX, if anyone is to blame at this point it would be Rome. The SSPX at one point was ready to sigh the “Doctrinal Preamble”, but a certain Cardinal threw a wrench in it. The SSPX is now required to accept V2 according to the false interpretations of liberal minded Bishops. That is what the SSPX rejects. Many of these Bishops in fact reject V2 themselves, by doing the complete opposite of what the Council called for. And puffed with pride they make the Traditionalists look like the bad guys, all the while they continue to stray away from what V2 actually said.
Yes, the heirarchy have begun to believe that going against Vatican II is to their benefit. However, the SSPX is still to blame because they refused to follow the teachings of Vatican II. I think the argument is weak that says because they are doing it I can. (also it’s childish) But your stance also shows how hypocritcal the stance of SSPX is. They get to be disobedient when it suits their needs, but when some other group takes issue with anything, they are heretics. By the standard of many, the SSPX are heretics. Just saying!
To Jamie. The reason that the pope doesn’t reach out to Arch Bishop Milingo and his group is that they are so radical. Married Bishops and all kind of crazy ideas. I belive that at this point the Pope should release Bp. Felley and the Society of Pius X they want it their way.
The Pope has tried his very best but as He said in a handwritten letter to Felley that they (the Society of Pius X) must accept Vatican II. There can be no mental reservations in the matter. Either they accept Vatican II,which had more bihops present and representing the Church than the Council of Trent had! Why doesn’t the Pope try to make reconcilation efforts and attempt to draw back those bishops that were ordained by Archbishop Milingo back into the Church. They desearve to be treated the same way by the Church as those bishops from the Society of St Pius X. After all if Justice is not available within the Church then were is it avalable? I know both were ordained without Mandates from the Pope but then the bishops ordained by Lefebvre were expressly rejected by Blessed Pope John Paul II when their names were submitted to Him to which he rejected but Lefebvre continued in difiance and ordained them anyway.
best wishes.
Jamie
The Pope has bent over backwards to win back these malcontents, he has divided the Church even further by by bringing back the Tridetine Mass which was suspended by Paul VI.
I pray that Benidict will turn his attention now to the immplimentation of Vatican II and restoring to us the hope and vision of Blessed Pope John XXIII.
“…and admitted other religions may also offer a path to salvation.”
False. The Vatican II decree LUMEN GENTIUM acknowledges the possibility that persons in other religions may be saved, if “through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will” — but all salvation is from Jesus Christ and mediated through the Catholic Church.
Furthermore, the declaration DOMINUS IESUS clarified that while it is true that “the followers of other religions can receive divine grace, it is also certain that objectively speaking they are in a gravely deficient situation in comparison with those who, in the Church, have the fullness of the means of salvation.”
Other religions do not offer a path of salvation. Followers of other religions who receive divine grace receive it from Jesus Christ, and in spite of the grave deficiencies of their non-Christian religions.
and many in the Catholic CHurch could never find the path to salvation because they are too busy convincing others that they have God on their side. (and only their side)
God is God of all, he shows mercy to all, and his loving grace is a gift to all who in faith accept it. This is as catholic (lower case and upper case) as you can get. The point made in LUMEN GENTIUM is true, that Jesus is the one Savior of all (Christian and non-Christian). There can be no other because there is no other Son of the Living God. Concerned, do you have another nominee for the Son of the Living God?