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After Cardinal Timothy Dolan, archbishop of New York and head of the U.S. bishops, gives the closing prayer for the Republican National Convention in Tampa this week, he’ll head to Charlotte for a repeat performance for the Democrats.
And today, another religious figure was named to a speaking slot at the DNC: Sister Simone Campbell, head of a group of nuns and sisters known as NETWORK, according to an Obama campaign staffer who declined to be named because information was not yet public.
Back when the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops was fighting the Obama health overhaul drive, the Affordable Care Act, on abortion and contraception, NETWORK, a Washington-based social justice advocacy group, and other Catholic women religious came out in favor of it.
This summer, while the Catholic bishops orchestrated a national campaign to fight a mandate that birth control be included in insurance plans without exemptions for faith-based schools, hospitals and charities, NETWORK was also out on the public relations trail. Campbell led the nine-state Nuns on the Bus tour to focus attention on Catholic social teachings to care for the poor. [More]
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I have this recurring fantasy of all the hate-preaching gay-bashing “Catholics” or “religious” showing up at the pearly gates and having Jesus introduce them to his life partner — you know the “disciple that Jesus loved” who stood by Him at the cross and about whom Our Savior said to his mother “Woman, behold your son; son, behold your mother” as he was dying for us.
There’s a special place in hell reserved for those who preach hate in the name of God.
Liz — stop making up reality. You not only have the fantasy you described, but you also fantasize about reality, and then believe your fantasies are real. Show me where hate has been expressed for gays on this blog. Show me, Liz.
Cardinal Dolan is offering prayer at the Republican and Democratic Conventions. Other than that, he is not a formal speaker. However, if he did formally speak, especially at the Republican Convention, Liberals would be shouting to have the Churches Tax-Exempt Status removed. I don’t hear that voiced with Simone speaking! Maybe the tax-exempt status of her Order should be reviewed. I am for the poor, however, I am not for keeping the poor, poor. Many times I put my neck on the line trying to find jobs for people who said they wanted a job. When I found one for them, they refused to accept it because they said that they could make more money on welfare. I have allot of stories such as this. I know that there are people who are truly poor and stuck between a rock and a hard place, but, there are also many who want to collect checks from the government so that they can sit at home and do nothing. I used to be a head-strong Democrat until I realized that the parties main focus was to keep the poor dependant on government so that their vote would keep them in office. I left the party 18 years ago and now am an independent. I’m not that excited about the Republican Party either. I see Simone as a wolf in sheeps clothing. It’s not about the poor, it’s about having power over the Bishop’s, Pope and the Church.
I do not believe that batcrap about folks wishing to remain on welfare instead of taking a job. I was on welfare and worked at the same time or tried. As soon as employers learned I received AFDC they fired me. My story is not a myth like his, I lived it. Most people on asistance would much prefer a real job, not a slave labor one with minimum wage. Back in the day, I used my AFDC, wages and GI Bill to go to school, get a degree and pull myself up from poverty. But, most people simply got discouraged, they didn’t have the GI Bill, and did the best they could with what little they had. Unless you have received welfare, shut up! Been there, done that, know better: the only “welfare queens” were the administrators doling out the AFDC, food stamps, etc.; living off others’ misery.
SSGKit — with all due respect — and you deserve respect, because you have worked hard and signed up to defend our country — Michael is right about the prevalence of con-artists who take advantage of government programs. “Poor” people have cell phones and computers supplied by welfare to help them obtain a job. Sometimes I consider cancelling my cell phone to save money — and I work my butt off. People like you deserve a hand up — but some on welfare do not.
Hi Jim.
You have a problem with “con-artists” (minorities) and “Poor people have cell phones and computers”.
Everybody in America (if not most people in the world) has a “computer” (phone, microwave, car, etc.)
But why do you care? Remember (I remember) your famous quote:
“There are no poor people in America.”
Take a ride on the bus.
Go NUNS!!!
My dear Dennis — my point about cell phones was not at all about cell phones per se — the point was that the poor in America live about as well as I do — the difference is, I need to break my butt to get what I have, but the “poor” don’t. When a man who works more than a full-time job considers giving up his cell phone to save money, yet the “poor” all have them, and get them for free, there is something wrong with that system. Look at what Michael said — he knows of people who would not take a job because their financial status would decline if they did. I have been told by more than one person that they did not want to take a job because the job did not offer health insurance benefits, but they got free medical insurance from welfare, and they would lose that health insurance if they took a job. The real poor are in India, South America, Africa, Afghanistan. There are no real poor in America. The poor in America have cell phones, running water in their homes, flush toilets, heat, computers, clothes. What else, frankly, do you need, except a vacation — they get a vacation every day, but I don’t, because I have to work.
My Good Friend Jim,
The cell phones they get have roughly about 60 minutes a month (maybe 30) for emergency calls.
Would you rather they get picked up by EMS or the police?
Go here if you wish but it will get personal.
I have been to Africa and I almost got stuck in “no man’s land”. Do you know what that is?
Dennis — since you’ve been to Africa, you know what real poverty is. You can’t honestly say the poor in this country have any resemblance to the poor in Africa. The poor in Africa don’t have cell phones, Dennis.
Jim.
You hit a nerve. Sort of like saying Ayn Ryan is Catholic.
Some of what you say I agree with. The system today does make health insurance very important. This is very different than when I started working more than 30 years ago. Even assembly line jobs back then came with decent medical coverage.
Sometimes it doesn’t make sense to take a low paying job if you lose the medical benefits you need.
Some drugs are very expensive and can cost over $1,000 to $2,000 per month.
Enough.
Dennis — I don’t ever recall saying Ayn Ryan is Catholic.
Good idea, Michael — I’d like to see heretic Simone’s organization reviewed by the IRS, and I hope they lost their tax-exempt status. The quicker that organization dissolves, the better.
Stay out of politics, please!
How many more are out of work? How much higher is the debt? How much more expensive is gasoline and electric power? And who is hurt the most? Is this Social Justice? Government spending to improve the economy is very inefficient; the only ones who benefit are the Friends of Obama!
A tax cut is very efficient at “spreading the wealth;” it is like a rising tide that lifts all boats. THIS is Social Justice.
Isn’t there more to our Faith than abortion and gay rights? Is that what we are all about? I think not. When I look at the big picture, the continuum of life from conception until death, I think the Democratic ideals are closer to my Christian ideals than the Republicans and I will vote that way according to my conscience.
It is important to support the sisters in their effort to make a religious life relevant to social justice and not a male dominated, narcissistic, egotistic piety.
Liberation is more than a conclusive outgrowth of freedom. Liberation is a lived experience of people coming together for justice. Equity and liberation are the shared efforts to abolish socially unjust relations. To the humanist and Christian to be human means to live in communities of equals in which each individual within that community has full support to live life to it’s full potential. To the theologian God is love in history of liberation. To both freedom and justice is founded upon a humanitarian equality. Oppression or marginalization of any group or individual is unacceptable to the spirit of liberation. (Gutierrez: Marynoll, New York)
This takes on a global perspective, to support any and all marginalized groups anywhere in the world. Theology and faith are incompatible with economic exploitation, political oppression or cultural marginalization anywhere and any time. A popular front of socialists, democrats, republicans, humanists, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Christians and any one who agrees with the utopian hope of liberation.
Those neglected by history are now writing history of their own, which is history of the planet. This anticipates the poor becoming central players in this revolution. Because poverty is death, you cannot be free if you are poor. The poor by necessity will lead the struggle for peace and justice. The requirement is that the poor, women, gays and lesbians to free themselves liberate not only the slave but also the master.
Hey Andrew, you like quoting Scripture? What about “Whatsoever to do to others you do to me?”
Ryan and his budget takes from the poor, therefore takes from Jesus.
Fine, lets analyze this: “whatsoever you do unto others…” killing babies through abortions,”…you do to me.” hurt Almighty God who made those innocent babies.
You know what? The Jews allowed and still allow for abortions in certain circumstances. It could be that Jesus, being an observant Jew also beleived in abortion. After all He was a Jew.
May God have mercy on you for even thinking such an evil thought!
Well, He was totally human and totally Jewish, and he never said anything against it.
“If you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.” “You shall not commit murder; you shall not commit adultery; you shall not steal; you shall not bear false witness; honor your father and mother; and you shall love your neighbor as yourself.” Matthew 19:17-19
St Thomas Aquinas himself allowed for abortion during the first 40 days of gestation.
Of course the understanding of human development was a lot different in those days than it is now.
Tony, you are a liar. St. Thomas of Aquainas believed no such thing. The right to life has been an uncompromisablepart of Church teaching for 2000 plus years. You need to quit posting evil messages speculating that Our Lord and the saints did or may have approved of abortion. Prayerfully consider getting away from this board and spend some time reading the (Catholic) Bible and the Cathecism of the Catholic Church! By the way, it’s RCIA time so seriously consider enrolling for a much needed refresher.
Thanks, Andrew, for that very necessary correction. Unfortunately, what I have found is that people get entrenched in their positions, and they don’t readily change them.
Google Thomas Aquinas and abortion.
Indeed he did, Googe St Thomas Aquinas and Abortion, read the Summa Theolgica. Get your head out of the Sand.
Andrew, do some research read about his opinion about abortion and eSOULMENT, HOW DARE YOU CALL ME OR ANYONE A LIAR.
Tony.
Remember it is Andrew.
Be nice to those less fortunate.
Dennis, people need to do research, and think. The conservatives are afraid of that. They are afraid of having their small, myopic vision of reality shattered.
‘Tis rumored that Sister Simone will arrive in Charlotte by bus, to a groundswell of acclaim worthy of a visiting head of state. Like maybe a choir of angels and some shivering shepherds . . . Congratulations, Sister Simone! Give ‘em heaven!
Good for Sister Simone and those who fight for Justice.
The Democratic convention is the wrong forum. The nuns must be seen as non-partisan, just as the Church must be if it is to be credible witness to gospel values.
It it wonderful to see Jim and Tony fighting in the ring so early in the morning.I find it sad that Jim who has every right to disagree with the nuns but plays God in condemning them to hell.I though that was reserved for God Alone?
I just make rational predictions, that’s all, Joseph Francis.
Morning Jim.
You rational!!!
Rarely.
Jim:
This is not a Democrat vs. Rebulican issue. Mr. Rommney also supports abortion.
Jesus was clearly on the side of the poor and the marginalized,
Most marginalized = babies aborted in the womb.
Wow, it’s that weird how such a holy lady, who is so in agreement with the Church, would speak at the DNC, which favors abortion and gay marriage? Sorry, but this woman is an absolute heretic, and she is dragging souls to Hell right along with her. Disgusting.
Well said Jim. It is shameful and scandalous that a “nun” would speak to a convention that has openly adopted a platform that basically condemns Church teaching. By speaking at this convention, this woman (I can’t call her a nun anymore) has chosen the abortion industry and the gay marriage mafia over the Church. Shame on her!
Shame on a Sister who speaks for the voiceless? Shame on a Sister who speaks for the poor?
Shame on a Sister who speaks on behalf of the marginalized?
Shame on you Andrew for turning your back on Jesus in the poor, the voiceless and the marginalized. Remember, “what ever you do to others you do to ME?”
Shame on you Andrew
No, shame on you and all the other Cafeteria Catholics who choose to ignore the gravest sins of today and excuse those politicians who directly and indirectly condone and promote the culture of death in our country. Screw the feminist nuns! For a real role model, I’ll take Blessed Theresa of Calcutta who began each day in Eucharistic Adoration before going out into the hellish streets of Calcutta to clothe the naked, feed the hungry and nourish the souls. Blessed Theresa was adamantly pro-life, she didn’t hesitate for one minute to lecture the Clintons and America in general about the preciousness of life: born and unborn. That’s why she’s on the fast track to Sainthood. “Sister” Simone is no Theresa of Calcutta!
The Jews, even the most observant allow for abortion under certain circumstances, it could be that the Historical Jesus, being a good devote Jew, allows for abortion as well. He never said a word against it.
Hate to burst your bubble but It is claimed that MT was given millions of dollars for her charitable work and she used that money to build convents for her Sisters rather than use the money to help the poor. The MissionAries of Charity have never allowed an audit.
You aren’t bursting my bubble Mr. Pro-Abortion. Blessed Theresa’s order of nuns grew by leaps and bounds under her leadership so it should come as no surprise that they needed more convents for those good sisters.
But did she misuse the money donated to her. It was ment for the poor. And I will have you know I am totally against abortion.
Tony — look at your illogic. If there never was an audit of funds, how can you know Mother Teresa misused them? You can’t, of course. You are irrational, just like many who post here.
Sister Simone articulates by her words and her life what it is to be a disciple of Jesus. She has taken the option for the poor that our church teaches and given it wings. She is a voice for the voiceless a hope hor the hopeless, in her efforts to focus attention on Catholic social teachings. Our Catholic Vice Preident has modeled his vice presidency and life of public service on the social teachings of the Church.
The presence of Cardinal Dolan at the convention is a beautiful reminder of the prayer of the Church for the poor.
Sorry, Tony, but her life in NO WAY reflects the life of Jesus. Jesus was against abortion and gay marraige; the Demon-crats and heretic Campbell favor it. One is God; the other is Satan. Take your pick, Tony: Heaven or Hell?
By the way Jim, there is much in Scripture particularly in the beatitudes about caring for others being just to other where did Jesus say he was against abortion and gay marriage, Chapter and verse please.
What part of THOU SHALT NOT KILL needs clarification?
Hi Tony,
I already tried that but I never get a direct response.
BTW. Nobody took me up on my offer to donate $100 to the Bishops if someone could list 10 negative, sexual passages in the Bible.
Only 10 – how about uping the donation to $l,000.
Joe Biden openly supports abortion and gay marriage: two grave sins and intrinsic evils as defined by the Cathecism of the Catholic Church. It is 1000 percent false to say that this man had modeled the vice presidency of Church teaching.