Irish eyes aren’t smiling over New York Cardinal Timothy Dolan’s seminary probe
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Cardinal Timothy Dolan loves to play up his Irish roots, which is no surprise given Dolan’s famous Gaelic gregariousness and his role as spiritual leader of such a prominent community of Irish-American Catholics.
But in the wake of Dolan’s scathing verdict on the orthodoxy of a major Irish seminary, and the sharp pushback by Ireland’s leading bishops, America’s best-known churchman might want to stick to his throne at St. Patrick’s Cathedral and steer clear of the old sod for a while.
Dolan’s report on the flagship Irish seminary in Rome – contained in a review commissioned by the Vatican – was marked by “a deep prejudice” that “led to the hostile tone and content of the report,” Ireland’s four archbishops said in the draft of a joint reply to the Vatican.
The reply, published by The Irish Times last Friday (June 15), also said Dolan’s report contained “significant errors of fact.”
In 2010, as revelations of the widespread sexual abuse of children by clergy rocked deeply Catholic Ireland, Pope Benedict XVI asked Dolan to a lead a team that would inspect Ireland’s Catholic seminaries to make sure they were preparing men properly for the priesthood. (The pontiff also named Boston Cardinal Sean O’Malley and other churchmen to review Ireland’s four archdioceses.)
The Irish Times obtained a copy of Dolan’s report on the Irish College in Rome, which was sent to to the Vatican earlier this year, and it was forceful in its criticisms: the review accused Ireland’s archbishops of being “disengaged from college governance” in their role as trustees, and said the “general rule of governance is ‘Let’s keep doing what we have been for the last 35 years.’” [more]
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If indeed Cardinal Dolan filed a report with no input from faculty then the report is distorted and certainly does not show a desire to uncover the real truth. We all know that when there is disagreement, the truth lies somewhere between the opposing parties.
Most people, ay or straight, are naturally, disgusted at what occurred and appreciate, as should we all, that sexuality and crime have no rigid connection. Those who abuse, lie, and exploit do so because of their immorality and not because of their sexual preference. (quote: from Why Catholics are Right – National Bestseller – Michael Coren
Whatever one thinks of Cardinal Dolan’s report, he obviously is just trying to do what’s best for cleaning up the mess in the church. While today we all work with many homosexual people who we know to be very nice people — very sane and normal, I believe they should stick to secular jobs in the area of social work or elsewhere and not become priests in the church. It seems to me that they are going into church work instead of secular social work because they know they will have a job for life, they will be taken care of financially by the church, and up until recently, the church’s “secret system” protected them from civil authorities. Most of us won’t say it out loud, but homosexuals in positions of leadership in the church makes the other 90% of us uncomfortable. We cannot relate to them, and it turns us off. Married clergy and women would willingly fill the gap and should be the ones ordained – those who really care, not those trying to hide in a protected job.
Sorry, Recovering — female clergy, which Jesus Himself did not choose, would turn off the men. You’d be left with a church full of women, and leaders of the Church who love dialogue but cannot lead.
Actually you may end up with an empty church building as the Church moves on.
Well, Marilyn, it won’t be completely empty — my wife, my children and I will be there, as will many other faithful Catholics I know.
Bravo, Cardinal Dolan! Thank you for having courage — something sorely lacking in many Catholic clergymen.
What I intend to do is research you. This article is far from a news article. Keep your opinions to yourself when writing “news” stories and be more factual. Do you have a habit of this type of journalism?
Gentlemen: Your comments are nasty and unbecoming. You sir do not know what drives Cardinal Dolan – and you sir are disrespectful of the men God has placed in the leadership of our Church.
Thank you so much, Marilyn, for your comment, and your genteel-ness. A woman who says what you do likely will have more impact on these men than will I.
It is the archbishops and bishops and priests if Ireland that object to to what Dolan did.
True, Tony, but that doesn’t change the fact that Marilyn called you out for being “nasty and unbecoming” as well as “disrespectful” — and I agree with her.
Wow, Tony, an unusual comment from you.
Another effort of power and control in the name of the bishop of Rome and his henchmen. the old farts in the curia.
Looks like Dolan maybe really actively seeking that white hat after all.
Good Comment Tony… Of course he is seeking that white hat… Power is what drives this man, not love or concern for the people of God…
As if you could possibly know that, Chuck. Married couples often misinterpret each other’s intentions. You’re telling me that you know what is in the heart of a man whom you’ve never met and with whom you’ve never talked? Have some common sense, and some decency. Do not assume the worst about someone unless you have definitive proof of your allegation.
But Jim all of your comments show that you only follow this rule if it applies to someone in the church who subscribes to your way of thinking. If it is anyone elase, they simply become open game to your rhetoric and your evaluation of that person – even though you do not know the individual and could not possibly know what is in their hearts or minds.
Not true, Concerned. What you will notice is that I do not make inferences about others, even about people I do not like such as yourself and Tony. I don’t know what is in your heart. BUT, I do know what you post — and it is the errors in what you post that I attack. Go re-read any of my posts and prove to me that I am wrong in what I have just asserted. You have the evidence — so either put up or shut up.
Awwe, Jimmy, you don’t like me??
You’re all right, Tony — but honestly, we couldn’t really be friends, unless you could start seeing reality more correctly and quit complaining so much.